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		<title>By: ljanus</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/adobe-continues-to-respond-to-cs3-pricing-complaints.php#comment-246039</link>
		<dc:creator>ljanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is not the cost so much as the fact that InDesign is an inferior program, purposely designed to work differently than other Adobe products in order to justify yet another unecessary product. 
The swatch palette is an unworkable mess, why can't it be like Illustrator? Resizing is done differently just to piss us off, and the Paragraph composer knows nothing about typography. Adobe used to be a great company until they lost focus on their clients and are now pushing all these stupid seminars and worthless programs. Illustrator, Photoshop and Indesign should be one program.
Microsoft is Hitler; Adobe is Stalin. They're both evil, it's just a matter of degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not the cost so much as the fact that InDesign is an inferior program, purposely designed to work differently than other Adobe products in order to justify yet another unecessary product.<br />
The swatch palette is an unworkable mess, why can&#8217;t it be like Illustrator? Resizing is done differently just to piss us off, and the Paragraph composer knows nothing about typography. Adobe used to be a great company until they lost focus on their clients and are now pushing all these stupid seminars and worthless programs. Illustrator, Photoshop and Indesign should be one program.<br />
Microsoft is Hitler; Adobe is Stalin. They&#8217;re both evil, it&#8217;s just a matter of degree.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/adobe-continues-to-respond-to-cs3-pricing-complaints.php#comment-73091</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Adobe is trying to screw everyone over by charging what they can. Will they change their pricing? I doubt it, but if they do they'll get a lot of complaints also from people who have already paid the full price.
I managed to save a few hundred Euros by pretending I was still using CS1, upgrading to CS2.3 (while I already was using CS2) and requesting a free upgrade to CS3. It took over a month, but I have it now.

I never pass on upgrades of software I use on a daily basis, and with the improvements I think CS3 Design Premium is definitely worth the money. It's just a danged shame I had to pay so much more for it than my American friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Adobe is trying to screw everyone over by charging what they can. Will they change their pricing? I doubt it, but if they do they&#8217;ll get a lot of complaints also from people who have already paid the full price.<br />
I managed to save a few hundred Euros by pretending I was still using CS1, upgrading to CS2.3 (while I already was using CS2) and requesting a free upgrade to CS3. It took over a month, but I have it now.</p>
<p>I never pass on upgrades of software I use on a daily basis, and with the improvements I think CS3 Design Premium is definitely worth the money. It&#8217;s just a danged shame I had to pay so much more for it than my American friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adobe states the EU market has a lot of differences. That's true. However, Indesign CS3 do not. We don't even got the right keyboard shortcut set in the EU priced version. We do have different keyboards and the shortcuts needs to deal with that. Photoshop &#38; Illustrator has never shipped with other standards than UK. IndesignCS2 came up with all the sets. CS3 don't. Just arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe states the EU market has a lot of differences. That&#8217;s true. However, Indesign CS3 do not. We don&#8217;t even got the right keyboard shortcut set in the EU priced version. We do have different keyboards and the shortcuts needs to deal with that. Photoshop &amp; Illustrator has never shipped with other standards than UK. IndesignCS2 came up with all the sets. CS3 don&#8217;t. Just arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordi</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/adobe-continues-to-respond-to-cs3-pricing-complaints.php#comment-69292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm using the full Premium CS2 in english. If the EU price was just close to the US price, I've bought th upgrade month ago.
In a global world where I can bought from any where it makes no sense to put barriers. These absurds differences in prices will fail. Only people who don't care of money will pay. 
Now, I'm looking for an option to buy it: a cheap trip to NY, Ebay, friends in US,...
I work with Adobe programs all day, so I want to buy legally. For me torrent or emule options are not valid.
But, since my annual income is more than a half US salary (for the same type of work), I WILL NOT pay the double for the SAME product.
I living in Spain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using the full Premium CS2 in english. If the EU price was just close to the US price, I&#8217;ve bought th upgrade month ago.<br />
In a global world where I can bought from any where it makes no sense to put barriers. These absurds differences in prices will fail. Only people who don&#8217;t care of money will pay.<br />
Now, I&#8217;m looking for an option to buy it: a cheap trip to NY, Ebay, friends in US,&#8230;<br />
I work with Adobe programs all day, so I want to buy legally. For me torrent or emule options are not valid.<br />
But, since my annual income is more than a half US salary (for the same type of work), I WILL NOT pay the double for the SAME product.<br />
I living in Spain.</p>
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		<title>By: Mamoffel</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/adobe-continues-to-respond-to-cs3-pricing-complaints.php#comment-65186</link>
		<dc:creator>Mamoffel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the past weeks Adobe's Store for Germany was only accepting preorders, so we indulged in the small hope that Adobe might mercifully correct their absurd € pricing of twice the $ amounts—but they didn't.
All I can say is that as of today, I clearly won't suggest anyone to upgrade to CS3 who isn't already sure they absolutely need it. All our customers who are doing well with CS or CS2 on a G5 or even a Intel Mac may decide to stick to it and wait if CS4 will be worth the surcharge for not being participant of God's Own Market.
CS3 is definitely NOT worth an upgrade price of well over 200% plus VAT! (Design Premium Upgrade:
US = 460 € [599 $]
DE = 999 € [1300 $] excl. VAT
        1189 € [1550 $] incl. VAT)
What kind of "global" policy is this supposed to be anyway?
GRRRRRRRRR...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past weeks Adobe&#8217;s Store for Germany was only accepting preorders, so we indulged in the small hope that Adobe might mercifully correct their absurd € pricing of twice the $ amounts—but they didn&#8217;t.<br />
All I can say is that as of today, I clearly won&#8217;t suggest anyone to upgrade to CS3 who isn&#8217;t already sure they absolutely need it. All our customers who are doing well with CS or CS2 on a G5 or even a Intel Mac may decide to stick to it and wait if CS4 will be worth the surcharge for not being participant of God&#8217;s Own Market.<br />
CS3 is definitely NOT worth an upgrade price of well over 200% plus VAT! (Design Premium Upgrade:<br />
US = 460 € [599 $]<br />
DE = 999 € [1300 $] excl. VAT<br />
        1189 € [1550 $] incl. VAT)<br />
What kind of &#8220;global&#8221; policy is this supposed to be anyway?<br />
GRRRRRRRRR&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: woz</title>
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		<dc:creator>woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 07:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bredan is right, vote with your dollars. However, the Intel processor and (the emulating software rosetta) are making CS1+2 it difficult for us. Computerarts.co.uk just 'stepped in the ring' as well! They're really pro Adobe but also feel the pricing needs to be ajusted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bredan is right, vote with your dollars. However, the Intel processor and (the emulating software rosetta) are making CS1+2 it difficult for us. Computerarts.co.uk just &#8217;stepped in the ring&#8217; as well! They&#8217;re really pro Adobe but also feel the pricing needs to be ajusted&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/adobe-continues-to-respond-to-cs3-pricing-complaints.php#comment-55830</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 13:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No complaints from down under, either!

You know, you guys, nobody from Adobe is forcing you to buy their products at these vastly inflated prices ... vote with your $$$ - don't buy it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No complaints from down under, either!</p>
<p>You know, you guys, nobody from Adobe is forcing you to buy their products at these vastly inflated prices &#8230; vote with your $$$ - don&#8217;t buy it!</p>
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		<title>By: woz</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/adobe-continues-to-respond-to-cs3-pricing-complaints.php#comment-55502</link>
		<dc:creator>woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David's right. Nobody's complaining about all these people complaining. Exept US residents ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8217;s right. Nobody&#8217;s complaining about all these people complaining. Exept US residents <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: 638ways</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/adobe-continues-to-respond-to-cs3-pricing-complaints.php#comment-55458</link>
		<dc:creator>638ways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm moaning from the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m moaning from the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 17:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I'm not sure what you mean. We are hearing from people from Australia and throughout Europe here. One of the problems is that some people above are not saying where they live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I&#8217;m not sure what you mean. We are hearing from people from Australia and throughout Europe here. One of the problems is that some people above are not saying where they live.</p>
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