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	<title>Comments on: New Adobe White Paper on Creating Accessible PDF Files from InDesign</title>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been working for days on a big InDesign doc that has to be tagged. I followed David&#039;s InDesign magazine instructions before which are great. But Acrobat scrambles the order even though it&#039;s in order in InDesign. It&#039;s also breaking my text columns into dozens of bits, which means it&#039;s impossible to redo the order.

I had the same problem as someone mentioned with master pages. This presents all sorts of problems, one being that when the order is wrong in Acrobat, and you try to switch the order, your graphics disappear! Why is this happening?

Transparent objects that need Alt text apparently don&#039;t want to be tagged. Photos were set to Multiply in the blending mode, which I had to undo so the alt text would read in Acrobat. Some figures set with Alt text do not show up in Acrobat. And I&#039;m also not able to draw a box around something to retag it in Acrobat.

Because the cover text elements would not show up at all, I had to cheat and create one big Alt text block using the background art. And had to set the cover title and subtitle as artifacts.

I can&#039;t believe we have to work this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working for days on a big InDesign doc that has to be tagged. I followed David&#8217;s InDesign magazine instructions before which are great. But Acrobat scrambles the order even though it&#8217;s in order in InDesign. It&#8217;s also breaking my text columns into dozens of bits, which means it&#8217;s impossible to redo the order.</p>
<p>I had the same problem as someone mentioned with master pages. This presents all sorts of problems, one being that when the order is wrong in Acrobat, and you try to switch the order, your graphics disappear! Why is this happening?</p>
<p>Transparent objects that need Alt text apparently don&#8217;t want to be tagged. Photos were set to Multiply in the blending mode, which I had to undo so the alt text would read in Acrobat. Some figures set with Alt text do not show up in Acrobat. And I&#8217;m also not able to draw a box around something to retag it in Acrobat.</p>
<p>Because the cover text elements would not show up at all, I had to cheat and create one big Alt text block using the background art. And had to set the cover title and subtitle as artifacts.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe we have to work this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Spector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting issue. I design documents in InDesign, organize the tags as part of ther 508 workflow, and then hand it off to our 508 team. I&#039;m also told that the reading order is awry, and in some cases there are mysterious items that don&#039;t appear on the viewable page.

One issue concerned master pages. Because their tagged items are original to the document, they seem to come first in the reading order. Solution - I&#039;m not using master pages. Rather inconvenient.

Layers may also be an issue. Real World InDesign CS4 says exporting with PDF/X-4 preserves layers. Should we export using PDF/X-3, which flattens the layers?

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting issue. I design documents in InDesign, organize the tags as part of ther 508 workflow, and then hand it off to our 508 team. I&#8217;m also told that the reading order is awry, and in some cases there are mysterious items that don&#8217;t appear on the viewable page.</p>
<p>One issue concerned master pages. Because their tagged items are original to the document, they seem to come first in the reading order. Solution &#8211; I&#8217;m not using master pages. Rather inconvenient.</p>
<p>Layers may also be an issue. Real World InDesign CS4 says exporting with PDF/X-4 preserves layers. Should we export using PDF/X-3, which flattens the layers?</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paper is great - I&#039;ve had a good look through it.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I&#039;ve got an issue I wanted to clarify.

No matter what I do, the order that I create frames in InDesign determines the order in the Order panel in Acrobat - even though i&#039;ve rearranged tags in the Structure pane in InDesign.

Tag order is correct in Acrobat, read out loud and export to Accessible Text works great but the order panel and View &gt; Reflow show an incorrect order based on the original order I created frames in InDesign.

I have 2 questions = is this a known issue or I am doing something wrong, and do i need to change order  in Acrobat to make PDF accessible? I would guess not but i&#039;ll obviously have problems if i wanted to reflow the PDF on a different portable device (hence View &gt; Reflow not working correctly).

The paper doesn&#039;t mention this and does mention checking all these things.

Any advice would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paper is great &#8211; I&#8217;ve had a good look through it.</p>
<p>Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I&#8217;ve got an issue I wanted to clarify.</p>
<p>No matter what I do, the order that I create frames in InDesign determines the order in the Order panel in Acrobat &#8211; even though i&#8217;ve rearranged tags in the Structure pane in InDesign.</p>
<p>Tag order is correct in Acrobat, read out loud and export to Accessible Text works great but the order panel and View &gt; Reflow show an incorrect order based on the original order I created frames in InDesign.</p>
<p>I have 2 questions = is this a known issue or I am doing something wrong, and do i need to change order  in Acrobat to make PDF accessible? I would guess not but i&#8217;ll obviously have problems if i wanted to reflow the PDF on a different portable device (hence View &gt; Reflow not working correctly).</p>
<p>The paper doesn&#8217;t mention this and does mention checking all these things.</p>
<p>Any advice would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Frank and Gfx-Dzine. I fixed the link in the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Frank and Gfx-Dzine. I fixed the link in the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Gfx-Dzine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gfx-Dzine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be found here: http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/pdfs/accessibledocswithindesignCS4.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be found here: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/pdfs/accessibledocswithindesignCS4.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/pdfs/accessibledocswithindesignCS4.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank Münschke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Münschke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave
the direct link to the PDF is broken!
regards Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave<br />
the direct link to the PDF is broken!<br />
regards Frank</p>
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