Creating Gatefold Spreads
Gatefold spreads contain more than two adjoining pages and are commonly used for large brochures or ad designs. To create a gatefold spread in InDesign, select a page (single-sided document), or a spread (facing pages document) by clicking their respective thumbnails in the Pages panel. Then choose Allow Selected Spread To Shuffle from the Pages panel flyout menu. Doing so disables this option, which is on by default; therefore, a check mark should no longer appear next to it in the menu.
Notice the page number(s) for this page or spread now appear in brackets in the Pages panel thumbnail display. In the Pages panel, click and drag a document page or master page icon into the bracketed spread (sometimes called an “island” spread). Using this method, continue to add additional pages to the spread as needed.
That’s pretty neat way of doing it. But I recently had a query regarding having the master page show items and they couldn’t figure out why the master items were showing on some pages and not others.
Basically, what I asked them to do was create a new document and go through the motions as described above.
This was my extra added bit:
Select both the master pages in the Master section of the pages panel and right click (on windows or cmd click on Mac) to bring up the contextual menu and go to the Master Options.
In the master options I asked them to put in say 4 pages.
Then drag the 4 pages into the pages section of the pages panel.
Then delete the first page, that was automatically created.
It’s a real pity you can’t set this kind of document up from the new document window and it is a bit of mystery to some as how to set up gate folds, trifolds etc.
Ted that’s a great tip, but I thought I should add (since I work for a commercial printer) that having guides in place is important to indicate folding. You (most likely) will not have equal panels in many cases.
Wouldn’t it be far easier, and work just as well if you’d use DTP Tools’ Page Control plug-in — assuming you have the plug-in — to add a master page the size of the ‘unfolded’ page and then (as James also said) use guides to define where the folds are to go? That way you can take into account the smaller outer-page very easily.
This is a great tip for prepress operators who have to deal with extra pages placed in documents so the designer can get an odd folio on the backing page. Now I have a way to delete the extra page and not have everything re-shuffle which will usually cause bad things to happen.
I’ve found it’s easier to just create a new master page with the gatefold page number. Why Abode made moving pages such a PITA is a mystery we may never solve.
Pages (after the 2nd from the right) must shrink by .125″ to accommodate for proper folding. Using this tip may result in problems at print, because each page will be progressively less accurate. You’re better off creating custom marks to designate the trim.
It’s true that you must consider the proper trim size for folding, depending on the type of gatefold you are creating. I would recommend using custom guides to ensure proper item placement. In fact, I’d even recommend placing the guides on their own guide layer, specific to the gatefold spread.
Agree with Marc Anthony that this layout can cause problems because of the creep that you have to accommodate for proper folding. When I do this kind of design, I just create one large page and indicate fold lines.
Isn’t it possible at imposition stage, both creep and the folding can be taken on board and adjusted for?
Practically, if having to create a gatefold or any other fold, contacting the printers and finding out how they want the job supplied wouldn’t be a bad idea, supplying simple drawings of how the fold will work and find out if they can match your spec., because not all printers can.
Not everybody uses the same print company and I find that they all work a little differently.
Working with the printers and keeping them updated on the design, especially with folds, is essential, I believe.
I can’t say I ever went off on a whim and adjusted for creep in a design (which I never do anyway), of course I would allow a tiny bit of room for a fold, but not in the size of the print job, I rely on the printers to trim it properly, so I shift my design an inch to the right or left, where appropriate.
It is better to set it up as one page and just show the fold marks since the pages that fold have to be .125 inches shorter. Eugene, it is possible at the imposition stage to adjust but that would add a lot more time and it would be easier for me just to change the dimensions in Indesign. I work for a printer and come across this problem numerous times.
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For barrelfold or gatefold DM pieces I always set up my files to the full unfolded size with manual fold lines, but I often have to incorporate fold out covers or fold out interior pages within larger books. I truly hope Adobe addresses this problem by either allowing multiple page sizes or a new page size control where you could input an auto-shorten trim size for pages that are folded in.
I’ve created the gatefold and it worked fine in Indesign.
What about when you need to send a proof to the client. Is there an option for Acrobat to set up the pdf to look the way it’s supposed to? Right now it is viewing two-up continous. I’m going to have to set my document up the old way.