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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael Ninness 

Hi Michael. Sorry for the delayed response to your question.

By crawl I mean a realized pause between doing things. For example, when I click on and drag a text frame on a page, the system pauses for several sections prior to actually moving. Another is clicking into a text frame and then into a table. Once I double-clicked to enter it, it would pause for a noticable amount of time before reacting.

I wasn&#039;t aware that it was a background process that was supposed to stop when an action occured - for some reason, it doesn&#039;t stop quickly enough for me.

Good tip on the page range - I wasn&#039;t aware of that. Taht, and switching between preflight profiles has done the trick for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael Ninness </p>
<p>Hi Michael. Sorry for the delayed response to your question.</p>
<p>By crawl I mean a realized pause between doing things. For example, when I click on and drag a text frame on a page, the system pauses for several sections prior to actually moving. Another is clicking into a text frame and then into a table. Once I double-clicked to enter it, it would pause for a noticable amount of time before reacting.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that it was a background process that was supposed to stop when an action occured &#8211; for some reason, it doesn&#8217;t stop quickly enough for me.</p>
<p>Good tip on the page range &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t aware of that. Taht, and switching between preflight profiles has done the trick for me.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/cs4s-preflight-limitations.php/comment-page-1#comment-474471</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.markzware.com/blogs/live-preflight-and-flightcheck/2009/03/26/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;referenced here&lt;/a&gt; about how using the built-in preflight alongside third-party utilities makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article <a href="http://www.markzware.com/blogs/live-preflight-and-flightcheck/2009/03/26/" rel="nofollow">referenced here</a> about how using the built-in preflight alongside third-party utilities makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Jamerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Jamerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another limitation or problem we have found is with the &quot;Non-Proportional Scaling&quot; warning.

While it&#039;s obvious why this warning is available, I would like to be able to specify a threshold. (no options on the setting. It&#039;s either on or off).

I&#039;m a pretty sloppy designer (and it may be an insult to designers everywhere to call myself one). I&#039;m more of a prepress guy that can hunt and peck around when I need to design something.

I&#039;m sure that there are many others like me who tend to resize objects by grabbing the frame and pulling it diagonally to resize it &quot;almost-proportionally&quot;. Granted, this is far from perfect but it&#039;s often close enough that it doesn&#039;t create a visual problem.  

This warning is totally unforgiving.   An object may be off proportionally by a thousandth of an inch, but ID CS4 still considers it disproportionate and flags it.

I disabled this check in the profile we provide our customers until Adobe puts in a configurable threshold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another limitation or problem we have found is with the &#8220;Non-Proportional Scaling&#8221; warning.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s obvious why this warning is available, I would like to be able to specify a threshold. (no options on the setting. It&#8217;s either on or off).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a pretty sloppy designer (and it may be an insult to designers everywhere to call myself one). I&#8217;m more of a prepress guy that can hunt and peck around when I need to design something.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that there are many others like me who tend to resize objects by grabbing the frame and pulling it diagonally to resize it &#8220;almost-proportionally&#8221;. Granted, this is far from perfect but it&#8217;s often close enough that it doesn&#8217;t create a visual problem.  </p>
<p>This warning is totally unforgiving.   An object may be off proportionally by a thousandth of an inch, but ID CS4 still considers it disproportionate and flags it.</p>
<p>I disabled this check in the profile we provide our customers until Adobe puts in a configurable threshold.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ninness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ninness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian: Live Preflight is a background/idle process, meaning it is designed to not interrupt or slow down your other work. So I&#039;m curious to know more about what you mean when you say &quot;things can slow down to a CRAWL&quot;. I&#039;m assuming you mean the Live Preflight update slows down on longer documents. That makes sense -- longer documents equals more things to check.

InDesign itself should not be slowing down though because of Live Preflight. The instant you start doing something, Live Preflight will pause.

Also, in case you missed this, you can limit the page range that Live Preflight is set to check. By default, it checks the entire document. But if you only want it to check a specific page range, say the set of pages you are working on currently, you can enter that page range into the page range field at the bottom right corner of the Preflight panel. Using this technique should dramatically speed up the update time when using a complex profile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian: Live Preflight is a background/idle process, meaning it is designed to not interrupt or slow down your other work. So I&#8217;m curious to know more about what you mean when you say &#8220;things can slow down to a CRAWL&#8221;. I&#8217;m assuming you mean the Live Preflight update slows down on longer documents. That makes sense &#8212; longer documents equals more things to check.</p>
<p>InDesign itself should not be slowing down though because of Live Preflight. The instant you start doing something, Live Preflight will pause.</p>
<p>Also, in case you missed this, you can limit the page range that Live Preflight is set to check. By default, it checks the entire document. But if you only want it to check a specific page range, say the set of pages you are working on currently, you can enter that page range into the page range field at the bottom right corner of the Preflight panel. Using this technique should dramatically speed up the update time when using a complex profile.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks James.

The more I think about it, the more I agree with you and Fritz.

While the current Preflight setting does avoid any text being set in more than one ink, there does need to be a way to specify the number and percentages of inks that are not allowed.

Your example of magenta and yellow inks being OK, but black not makes sense.

I&#039;m just used to a world where you never color any text in anything but one color ink. But then again, I was designing coupons for Sunday newspaper supplements that had no possible control for registration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks James.</p>
<p>The more I think about it, the more I agree with you and Fritz.</p>
<p>While the current Preflight setting does avoid any text being set in more than one ink, there does need to be a way to specify the number and percentages of inks that are not allowed.</p>
<p>Your example of magenta and yellow inks being OK, but black not makes sense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just used to a world where you never color any text in anything but one color ink. But then again, I was designing coupons for Sunday newspaper supplements that had no possible control for registration.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wamser</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Wamser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, when you have text that contains 100% K and also contains additional inks, it most likely is done by mistake. Unless, of course it&#039;s larger type that requires additional inks to get a rich black. 

Sandee, does this make a little more sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, when you have text that contains 100% K and also contains additional inks, it most likely is done by mistake. Unless, of course it&#8217;s larger type that requires additional inks to get a rich black. </p>
<p>Sandee, does this make a little more sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

Why would the Red (100M, 100Y) be OK, but any Black plus another ink not OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>Why would the Red (100M, 100Y) be OK, but any Black plus another ink not OK?</p>
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		<title>By: James Wamser</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Wamser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Sandee, but I would like a Preflight setting that flags all type below a given point size that contains 100% black ink and also contains inks in the Cyan, Magenta and / or Yellow plates.

For example, if you have red type ( 100% Magenta and 100% Yellow) that would be fine, but if any type (below a certain point size) contains 100% black ink and another ink, it most likely is a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Sandee, but I would like a Preflight setting that flags all type below a given point size that contains 100% black ink and also contains inks in the Cyan, Magenta and / or Yellow plates.</p>
<p>For example, if you have red type ( 100% Magenta and 100% Yellow) that would be fine, but if any type (below a certain point size) contains 100% black ink and another ink, it most likely is a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to disagree, but it is totally possible to be warned if you apply a rich black or other multiple ink color to text.

Under the setting for Text, check the option for &quot;Minimum Type Size&quot;.

Set the amount to something extremely high, like 200 points. This essentially says all text will be looked at.

Then, set the option underneath that for &quot;Limit Text with Multiple Inks or White&quot;.

This will flag all text that has anything other than a single ink applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to disagree, but it is totally possible to be warned if you apply a rich black or other multiple ink color to text.</p>
<p>Under the setting for Text, check the option for &#8220;Minimum Type Size&#8221;.</p>
<p>Set the amount to something extremely high, like 200 points. This essentially says all text will be looked at.</p>
<p>Then, set the option underneath that for &#8220;Limit Text with Multiple Inks or White&#8221;.</p>
<p>This will flag all text that has anything other than a single ink applied.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Live Preflight is a great new feature! I would add one other limitation, though.

I&#039;m a slightly slower PC (dual-core, with 2 GB of RAM) and when I have a more advanced profile than the default that checks for say, images below a certain PPI, things can slow down to a CRAWL. Essentially, after every action (moving a frame, etc.), it does a check. When I have a document with a large number of images in it, the check can take upwards of 4 or 5 seconds each time.

The first time I experienced it, I thought my computer was crashing - it took me several minutes to realize it was the profile checking things after each minor change.

So, I now leave the default profile on and only switch over to more advanced ones at periodic times to check the profile. I still find it to be a useful feature, but it is somewhat diluted by the fact that I can&#039;t leave it on all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live Preflight is a great new feature! I would add one other limitation, though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a slightly slower PC (dual-core, with 2 GB of RAM) and when I have a more advanced profile than the default that checks for say, images below a certain PPI, things can slow down to a CRAWL. Essentially, after every action (moving a frame, etc.), it does a check. When I have a document with a large number of images in it, the check can take upwards of 4 or 5 seconds each time.</p>
<p>The first time I experienced it, I thought my computer was crashing &#8211; it took me several minutes to realize it was the profile checking things after each minor change.</p>
<p>So, I now leave the default profile on and only switch over to more advanced ones at periodic times to check the profile. I still find it to be a useful feature, but it is somewhat diluted by the fact that I can&#8217;t leave it on all the time.</p>
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