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		<title>By: Lucian Marin</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/dos-and-donts-of-text-in-indesign.php/comment-page-2#comment-485487</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucian Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hanging punctuation is recommended for body text mainly, and never for tables where tabular lining figures work best

and here&#039;s another one: never have columns longer than 60-70 characters including spaces, since they become difficult to read</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hanging punctuation is recommended for body text mainly, and never for tables where tabular lining figures work best</p>
<p>and here&#8217;s another one: never have columns longer than 60-70 characters including spaces, since they become difficult to read</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about hanging punctuation?
no one seemed to mention this.

that is a must</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about hanging punctuation?<br />
no one seemed to mention this.</p>
<p>that is a must</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you can convert Registration Black to normal Black in Acrobat 9, can&#039;t you? In the new Convert Colors dialog box? I haven&#039;t tried it, but I thought I remember seeing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can convert Registration Black to normal Black in Acrobat 9, can&#8217;t you? In the new Convert Colors dialog box? I haven&#8217;t tried it, but I thought I remember seeing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Not so Lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not so Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help!!

Does anyone know how to convert registration black to true black in a pdf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help!!</p>
<p>Does anyone know how to convert registration black to true black in a pdf?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Don’t type in ALL CAPS! If you really need something to be in capital letters, apply the All Caps style to that text (so you can turn it off later when you come to your senses).&quot;

This seems obvious, but I bet 90% of people just type in all caps, which looks terrible in 90% of cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Don’t type in ALL CAPS! If you really need something to be in capital letters, apply the All Caps style to that text (so you can turn it off later when you come to your senses).&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems obvious, but I bet 90% of people just type in all caps, which looks terrible in 90% of cases.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I get these rules as a poster, so I can tack them above every designer&#039;s workspace? 

Seriously, though, about the multiple box thing...

Once had a designer that used separate boxes for every element of a price pop in a catalog (one for the $, another for the dollar amount, another for the cents, yet another for the decimal!) so she could scale and style each one independently. (truth be told, she was a much better typesetter than I could ever hope to be.) OK, worked for her styling, but I was then tasked with making a style library out of them - one that could be applied to running type. Imagine all the kerning, tracking, baseline shifting - not to mention different font weights! - and putting all of that into a style sheet so someone else could apply it quickly.

right now I get designers who use a combination of subheds inline with running text as well as outside in their own frames, all on the same page. Invariably, someone says, &quot;hey, this space doesn&#039;t match that space - why?&quot;

and yes, lists - use them. We just did a story with 125 products, numbered. Getting the formatting right was tricky (numbered product name, then description, then nutritional info were all separate &#039;graphs, different sizes and leading, which I had to make into one to get the numbering to work) but there was no way I was going to number 125 items across 10 pages manually, then renumber them when the order changed. The designer balked (mainly because she likes to soft-return down the side of a column (!) to get better rags, and those were my nested style delimiters) but it worked in the end.

(and I now have one more reason to add to my growing list of why I need CS3 now - replacing the tab in the list with an em-space - thanks Anne-Marie)

now if I could only add &quot;thou shalt not use soft-returns in running type&quot; to the list of floggable offenses - that and all  of the type set to &quot;body copy&quot;, no matter how it&#039;s styled, styled with character styles, then locally formatted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I get these rules as a poster, so I can tack them above every designer&#8217;s workspace? </p>
<p>Seriously, though, about the multiple box thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Once had a designer that used separate boxes for every element of a price pop in a catalog (one for the $, another for the dollar amount, another for the cents, yet another for the decimal!) so she could scale and style each one independently. (truth be told, she was a much better typesetter than I could ever hope to be.) OK, worked for her styling, but I was then tasked with making a style library out of them &#8211; one that could be applied to running type. Imagine all the kerning, tracking, baseline shifting &#8211; not to mention different font weights! &#8211; and putting all of that into a style sheet so someone else could apply it quickly.</p>
<p>right now I get designers who use a combination of subheds inline with running text as well as outside in their own frames, all on the same page. Invariably, someone says, &#8220;hey, this space doesn&#8217;t match that space &#8211; why?&#8221;</p>
<p>and yes, lists &#8211; use them. We just did a story with 125 products, numbered. Getting the formatting right was tricky (numbered product name, then description, then nutritional info were all separate &#8216;graphs, different sizes and leading, which I had to make into one to get the numbering to work) but there was no way I was going to number 125 items across 10 pages manually, then renumber them when the order changed. The designer balked (mainly because she likes to soft-return down the side of a column (!) to get better rags, and those were my nested style delimiters) but it worked in the end.</p>
<p>(and I now have one more reason to add to my growing list of why I need CS3 now &#8211; replacing the tab in the list with an em-space &#8211; thanks Anne-Marie)</p>
<p>now if I could only add &#8220;thou shalt not use soft-returns in running type&#8221; to the list of floggable offenses &#8211; that and all  of the type set to &#8220;body copy&#8221;, no matter how it&#8217;s styled, styled with character styles, then locally formatted.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deano: I&#039;m going to have to agree with you on this one -- adjusting kerning and tracking is a time-honored method for copyfitting. The problem is that in ID (especially with paragraph composition), it doesn&#039;t always work the way you expect. See my comment above about the TypeFitter plug-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deano: I&#8217;m going to have to agree with you on this one &#8212; adjusting kerning and tracking is a time-honored method for copyfitting. The problem is that in ID (especially with paragraph composition), it doesn&#8217;t always work the way you expect. See my comment above about the TypeFitter plug-in.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lots to read here, and I have to admit *hangs head in shame* I haven&#039;t had any education in this field and thus do what I think looks good and works well.
I&#039;m crazy about using layers -- every file I make has at least 3 of them, for the background, images and text -- and set character, paragraph, cell and table styles where and when I can. But rules... they&#039;re for weaklings (I kid, I kid). I just wing it :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lots to read here, and I have to admit *hangs head in shame* I haven&#8217;t had any education in this field and thus do what I think looks good and works well.<br />
I&#8217;m crazy about using layers &#8212; every file I make has at least 3 of them, for the background, images and text &#8212; and set character, paragraph, cell and table styles where and when I can. But rules&#8230; they&#8217;re for weaklings (I kid, I kid). I just wing it <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newbie Here

Peter wrote: “Do not manually adust tracking (or even kerning) to copyfit a story and say ‘Hey, nobody’s gonna notice…’ ”

How am I meant to get copy to fit without adjusting tracking?

I&#039;m &quot;typesetting&quot; various bits of texts I&#039;ve copied and pasted from the internet into my fake magazine page layouts. Every bit of text I deal with needs tracking here and there to make it &quot;bottom out&quot;/fit the available space.

What do the Pros do to make text fit a given space if they&#039;re not tracking?

Reading a novel in the garden the other day, I noticed one of the paragraphs om a page had been set with slightly larger word spacing to keep the text justified
- I didn&#039;t mind and very much doubt any non-designer/type person would even have noticed but is this unprofessional?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newbie Here</p>
<p>Peter wrote: “Do not manually adust tracking (or even kerning) to copyfit a story and say ‘Hey, nobody’s gonna notice…’ ”</p>
<p>How am I meant to get copy to fit without adjusting tracking?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m &#8220;typesetting&#8221; various bits of texts I&#8217;ve copied and pasted from the internet into my fake magazine page layouts. Every bit of text I deal with needs tracking here and there to make it &#8220;bottom out&#8221;/fit the available space.</p>
<p>What do the Pros do to make text fit a given space if they&#8217;re not tracking?</p>
<p>Reading a novel in the garden the other day, I noticed one of the paragraphs om a page had been set with slightly larger word spacing to keep the text justified<br />
- I didn&#8217;t mind and very much doubt any non-designer/type person would even have noticed but is this unprofessional?</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/dos-and-donts-of-text-in-indesign.php/comment-page-2#comment-206626</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, &lt;a href=&quot;http://indesignsecrets.com/tab-leaders-part-1-separating-columns-of-text-with-dots.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; (actually, it&#039;s a series of 6 posts) might help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, <a href="http://indesignsecrets.com/tab-leaders-part-1-separating-columns-of-text-with-dots.php" rel="nofollow">this post</a> (actually, it&#8217;s a series of 6 posts) might help.</p>
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