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4:27 pm
January 18, 2010
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kc00799
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Post edited 5:14 pm – January 19, 2010 by Pariah S. Burke
I am in the book panel and I have added my chapter files. What I don't understand is this: I need my chapter to begin on an odd number page, so when the previous page end on say 39, my next chapter should begin on page 41. Do I just add a blank page for page 40, and if so, my entire book will be filled with about 8 blank pages to accommodate my chapters beginning on an odd page? What do I do with the blank pages or am I missing something?? Please help? Right now, my book panel lists:
1-9
11-18 ?
19-32
33-39
41-47 ?
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4:33 pm
January 18, 2010
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David Blatner
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InDesign can add a blank page for you at the end of chapters that end on an odd numbered page. That's an option in the Book panel numbering options dialog box. Or you can add them yourself manually.
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5:50 pm
January 18, 2010
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kc00799
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yes, David I understand that. What do I do with an extra blank page? If my chapter starts at page 33 and end at page 39, and the next chapter starts at page 41, what do I do for page 40???? I know a blank page can be inserted, but what do I do with it??? This happens at least 6 times throughout the book. Any suggestions??
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5:56 pm
January 18, 2010
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David Blatner
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What do you do with it? I'm sorry, but I don't understand the question. You can leave it blank… you can put a "This page left intentionally blank" message on it (and point it out to your printer so that they don't print that message). You can put running heads on it (some people prefer that to a blank page. You can rework the page endings earlier in the chapter so that some text ends up on the final page after all…
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7:46 pm
January 18, 2010
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kc00799
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David,
Thanks for replying. Just so we are clear, you are saying in a professional book, it's ok to have blank pages with just a header or footer?
Kathryn
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2:51 am
January 19, 2010
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Jongware
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Aha. Opinions — with a capital "O"!
Here's mine: A blank page is professional; a blank page with only a header or footer is not professional (typically, printed Word documents are littered with these).
A blank page that says "Intentionally left blank" is a logical contradiction which I cannot process. It must be something American — afraid of being sued for having a blank page for no apparent reason at all.
A left hand side blank page is extremely normal. A right hand side blank page is plain weird, and should be avoided in "a professional book".
A blank page is not meant to do anything. It's sole reason of being is to allow the next chapter to start on an odd page again. If you don't want blank pages at all, drop the requirement of starting chapters on odd pages. They are mutually exclusive!
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10:19 am
January 19, 2010
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Pariah S. Burke
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Kc0079:
Sorry about editing your post. There was a problem with the display of your frown emoticon, and I needed to check the code in your post. I didn't actually alter the content of the post, but it prefixed the edited by me line anyway.
Regards,
Pariah Burke
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4:48 pm
January 19, 2010
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docbud
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Jongware–great post about left-hand blanks. For me it's a normal thing, and we don't put any type on there that says "blank" or "intentionally left blank."
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12:11 am
January 20, 2010
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Harbs
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I actually have a book on my shelf which had the "intentionally left blank" line left in… 
It really is kind of silly…
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9:45 am
January 20, 2010
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David Blatner
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Yes, I never really understood the "Page left intentionally blank" thing, but some printers (at least here in the USA) insist on it as a way to ensure that they're not messing up. But yes, sometimes they really get printed, which is terrible.
What would make MUCH more sense is if InDesign put a "Yes, this page really is blank" message in the area outside the trim marks, on pages that are printed with nothing on them.
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10:22 am
January 20, 2010
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Eugene Tyson
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I much prefer to put a 10 – 20% screen of black on the blank page.
That way any chapter ending on a blank page won't be blank, but it will have an obvious end marker for the chapter.
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5:24 pm
January 20, 2010
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kc00799
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Pariah S. Burke said:
Kc0079:
Sorry about editing your post. There was a problem with the display of your frown emoticon, and I needed to check the code in your post. I didn't actually alter the content of the post, but it prefixed the edited by me line anyway.
Regards,
Pariah Burke
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5:26 pm
January 20, 2010
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kc00799
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kc00799 said: Thanks for explaining! It makes more sense to me now!
Pariah S. Burke said:
Kc0079:
Sorry about editing your post. There was a problem with the display of your frown emoticon, and I needed to check the code in your post. I didn't actually alter the content of the post, but it prefixed the edited by me line anyway.
Regards,
Pariah Burke
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5:35 pm
January 20, 2010
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kc00799
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Thanks, I get it now!
Jongware said:
Aha. Opinions — with a capital "O"!
Here's mine: A blank page is professional; a blank page with only a header or footer is not professional (typically, printed Word documents are littered with these).
A blank page that says "Intentionally left blank" is a logical contradiction which I cannot process. It must be something American — afraid of being sued for having a blank page for no apparent reason at all.
A left hand side blank page is extremely normal. A right hand side blank page is plain weird, and should be avoided in "a professional book".
A blank page is not meant to do anything. It's sole reason of being is to allow the next chapter to start on an odd page again. If you don't want blank pages at all, drop the requirement of starting chapters on odd pages. They are mutually exclusive!
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9:33 am
January 21, 2010
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Jennie
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Oh, the stories I can tell!!!
I have been forced to add "This page intentionally left blank" to many publications. The worst ever was that I had to create a page with nothing but the number 14 in the page number position because "people might think that we forgot to print a page" and we can't have that.
Chicago Manual of Style actually has information on correctly numbering pages…I love that book. (I know, its a book, therefore I love it…but this one is always within arms reach of my work station).
Unfortunately, I sometimes lose the page number battle because of my location on the organizational food chain.
This was a great question. I wish that the correct answer(s) was/were taught as part of basic writing, language, and literature courses.
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1:07 am
January 22, 2010
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Harbs
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If the problem is with (faulty) machinery which automatically drops blank pages, you can solve that by putting the tiniest dot somewhere on the page, that will not likely get noticed…
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3:19 pm
January 23, 2010
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docbud
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