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		<title>By: it services austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>it services austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I initially commented I clicked the -Notify me when new feedback are added- checkbox and now each time a remark is added I get 4 emails with the same comment. Is there any manner you can remove me from that service? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I initially commented I clicked the -Notify me when new feedback are added- checkbox and now each time a remark is added I get 4 emails with the same comment. Is there any manner you can remove me from that service? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much - I never remember how to do this.  What a pain.  We print our newsletter in greyscale, but publish it in full color on-line.  This was so helpful.  Such an easy trick. Thanks Josh - Advanced/Print Production/Convert colors takes a minute and lets you save your new file with a different name. Bookmarking this for the next time I forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much &#8211; I never remember how to do this.  What a pain.  We print our newsletter in greyscale, but publish it in full color on-line.  This was so helpful.  Such an easy trick. Thanks Josh &#8211; Advanced/Print Production/Convert colors takes a minute and lets you save your new file with a different name. Bookmarking this for the next time I forget.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhannad Salha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhannad Salha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 07:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy friend
if you don&#039;t have any photos (only photos )
you can just delete the colors from swatches.
If you have photos then you have to give an order for printing and select gray printing, then you have to select pdf file form your printer name.
I wish that will work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy friend<br />
if you don&#8217;t have any photos (only photos )<br />
you can just delete the colors from swatches.<br />
If you have photos then you have to give an order for printing and select gray printing, then you have to select pdf file form your printer name.<br />
I wish that will work.</p>
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		<title>By: liz banbury</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz banbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. 
I also need to export as pdf an Indesign &#039;Book&#039; to the printers, but they must have the Printer output options &#039;Colour Composite Grey&#039; and &#039;Text as Black&#039; selected.  My document is B&amp;W anyway, but based on CMYK.

I have to use the Export as PDF function as they also require the fonts to be embedded.   

It seems that neither the &#039;Adobe PDF Presets&#039; and &#039;Export to PDF&#039; Function do not incorporate the above Printer Output options.   

It seems like you should be able to do both, and I&#039;m using CS5 as well.

Are there any other options to be able to do both in one pdf document at the same time and preferably from a book, and not an open document?

Any help would be really appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.<br />
I also need to export as pdf an Indesign &#8216;Book&#8217; to the printers, but they must have the Printer output options &#8216;Colour Composite Grey&#8217; and &#8216;Text as Black&#8217; selected.  My document is B&amp;W anyway, but based on CMYK.</p>
<p>I have to use the Export as PDF function as they also require the fonts to be embedded.   </p>
<p>It seems that neither the &#8216;Adobe PDF Presets&#8217; and &#8216;Export to PDF&#8217; Function do not incorporate the above Printer Output options.   </p>
<p>It seems like you should be able to do both, and I&#8217;m using CS5 as well.</p>
<p>Are there any other options to be able to do both in one pdf document at the same time and preferably from a book, and not an open document?</p>
<p>Any help would be really appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Flashduette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flashduette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When using Advanced–&gt;Print Production–&gt; Convert Colors, the quality of the color eps files converted to grayscale is not good at all. 
I you compare your original grayscale pdf with mixed tiff and eps to the one created from the print production menu, you will notice that not only the grayscale eps are darker but the tiff files that were perfect in the first pdf are now also darker and not very good.
I think the tip is much better as the eps files are perfectly converted and you have to make only one pdf file. It does not take that much time to set the transparency of the eps files to 99.9% and the advantage is that if you want to print in color in the future, you will not have to change anything.
All you have to do is create a script that will convert the transparency to 99.9% for all your eps files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When using Advanced–&gt;Print Production–&gt; Convert Colors, the quality of the color eps files converted to grayscale is not good at all.<br />
I you compare your original grayscale pdf with mixed tiff and eps to the one created from the print production menu, you will notice that not only the grayscale eps are darker but the tiff files that were perfect in the first pdf are now also darker and not very good.<br />
I think the tip is much better as the eps files are perfectly converted and you have to make only one pdf file. It does not take that much time to set the transparency of the eps files to 99.9% and the advantage is that if you want to print in color in the future, you will not have to change anything.<br />
All you have to do is create a script that will convert the transparency to 99.9% for all your eps files.</p>
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		<title>By: Razvan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You for this article. I look after him from a long time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You for this article. I look after him from a long time</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 04:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad that you posted this! It really helped! It was so easy to follow your instructions for Acrobat Pro BlueKDesign!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad that you posted this! It really helped! It was so easy to follow your instructions for Acrobat Pro BlueKDesign!</p>
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		<title>By: Stef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been converting a color pdf (output from indesign at 300 dpi) with Acrobat Pro 6 (...) into grayscale but I noticed the document gets much lighter and the images are much more compressed (ie. pixellated) than before. Am I doing something wrong?
I&#039;ve been trying to give the printer a b/w pdf file but I gave up and gave him a CYMK black and white pdf file.
I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll know what to do with it, but in the past printers have complained about having to do the conversion.
Any other option? 

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been converting a color pdf (output from indesign at 300 dpi) with Acrobat Pro 6 (&#8230;) into grayscale but I noticed the document gets much lighter and the images are much more compressed (ie. pixellated) than before. Am I doing something wrong?<br />
I&#8217;ve been trying to give the printer a b/w pdf file but I gave up and gave him a CYMK black and white pdf file.<br />
I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll know what to do with it, but in the past printers have complained about having to do the conversion.<br />
Any other option? </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Quark, we set up a page using gray images and black type, and then saved the PDF as grayscale.

When I looked for a &quot;PDF as Grayscale&quot; option in InDesign I couldn&#039;t find one and was confused. I spoke to our prepress person and she gave me some helpful information. In InDesign, since we&#039;re only using gray art and black type, when we export the PDF - even as &quot;CMYK&quot; - it will only print black because that&#039;s the only ink we&#039;ve used. (I guess I was afraid that saving as CMYK would split my blacks into CMYK amounts, or add some zero amount of CMYK that would complicate things, but that&#039;s not the case.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Quark, we set up a page using gray images and black type, and then saved the PDF as grayscale.</p>
<p>When I looked for a &#8220;PDF as Grayscale&#8221; option in InDesign I couldn&#8217;t find one and was confused. I spoke to our prepress person and she gave me some helpful information. In InDesign, since we&#8217;re only using gray art and black type, when we export the PDF &#8211; even as &#8220;CMYK&#8221; &#8211; it will only print black because that&#8217;s the only ink we&#8217;ve used. (I guess I was afraid that saving as CMYK would split my blacks into CMYK amounts, or add some zero amount of CMYK that would complicate things, but that&#8217;s not the case.)</p>
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		<title>By: Edu Carvalho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edu Carvalho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi folks,
Randi, have you checked how black is meant to be printed out? Edit -
Preferences - Appearence of Black. If you have a 4 color document and
want it only BW you must set &quot;Printing/Exporting - Output all Blacks
as Rich Black&quot; and not &quot;Accurately&quot;. As far as I noticed it only
affects color documents that goes as only black. We got the same issue
here and that how we sorted it out. Hope it works as well for you.

Gretchen, you would have an only BW pdf if you print it out instead of
exporting as PDF. We use Avantra as &quot;PPD&quot;, but there are plenty of
other printers out there you may use. All you need to do is set it to
print as Composite Gray under Output menu in the Print screen.

It´s my turn to ask now. Does anyone happen to know a way to apply a
&quot;newspaper&quot; color setup in InDesign? We print several papers out every
night and we receive pdf from our customers, some of them are awfully
colored sometimes in RGB. As we put pages together using InDesign we
want to use a setup for every one.

Thank you in advance guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,<br />
Randi, have you checked how black is meant to be printed out? Edit -<br />
Preferences &#8211; Appearence of Black. If you have a 4 color document and<br />
want it only BW you must set &#8220;Printing/Exporting &#8211; Output all Blacks<br />
as Rich Black&#8221; and not &#8220;Accurately&#8221;. As far as I noticed it only<br />
affects color documents that goes as only black. We got the same issue<br />
here and that how we sorted it out. Hope it works as well for you.</p>
<p>Gretchen, you would have an only BW pdf if you print it out instead of<br />
exporting as PDF. We use Avantra as &#8220;PPD&#8221;, but there are plenty of<br />
other printers out there you may use. All you need to do is set it to<br />
print as Composite Gray under Output menu in the Print screen.</p>
<p>It´s my turn to ask now. Does anyone happen to know a way to apply a<br />
&#8220;newspaper&#8221; color setup in InDesign? We print several papers out every<br />
night and we receive pdf from our customers, some of them are awfully<br />
colored sometimes in RGB. As we put pages together using InDesign we<br />
want to use a setup for every one.</p>
<p>Thank you in advance guys!</p>
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