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		<title>By: InDesignSecrets Podcast 156 &#124; InDesignSecrets</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/grep-solution-to-flawed-title-case-feature.php/comment-page-1#comment-492407</link>
		<dc:creator>InDesignSecrets Podcast 156 &#124; InDesignSecrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 04:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] plug-in from InTools (does Change Case magic) &gt; Change Case with GREP, InDesignSecrets post here and forum thread here &gt; Using Configurator in InDesign to change case &gt; Is it Upper Case or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kenm</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice. I just made this part of my SubHead Style Sheet.

I just created a Character Style &quot;All  Caps&quot;
Clicked the &quot;Basic Charcter Format&quot; from the list and selected &quot;All Caps&quot; from the dropdown selection for Case:

Then I edited my SubHead Style Sheet in the GREP Style section. Click New GREP Style, paste the command string from above &lt;b&gt;:\s\l&#124;[-\s]\l(?!(f&#124;he&#124;nd?&#124;o&#124;y&#124;rom&#124;or)?\b) and select &quot;All Caps&quot; for the Apply Style selection.

Hope this proves helpful for other InDesigners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. I just made this part of my SubHead Style Sheet.</p>
<p>I just created a Character Style &#8220;All  Caps&#8221;<br />
Clicked the &#8220;Basic Charcter Format&#8221; from the list and selected &#8220;All Caps&#8221; from the dropdown selection for Case:</p>
<p>Then I edited my SubHead Style Sheet in the GREP Style section. Click New GREP Style, paste the command string from above <b>:\s\l|[-\s]\l(?!(f|he|nd?|o|y|rom|or)?\b) and select &#8220;All Caps&#8221; for the Apply Style selection.</p>
<p>Hope this proves helpful for other InDesigners.</b></p>
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		<title>By: kenm</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks great. I need to have a style sheet that forces the text into Title Case. How do I get the correct GREP command string to put into the paragarph style sheet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks great. I need to have a style sheet that forces the text into Title Case. How do I get the correct GREP command string to put into the paragarph style sheet?</p>
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		<title>By: Jongware</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jongware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken (better late than ever!),

&lt;cite&gt;The GREP does two more things: it converts to upper case any word that follows a colon or a hyphen.&lt;/cite&gt;
The colon stuff is in the first half, before the very first pipe character.

Jenn, that GREP should be

^[^:]+:

I can go into &lt;em&gt;great&lt;/em&gt; detail on this GREP expression when asked ... ;-)

However, there are more than a few problems. You &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; apply &quot;[None]&quot;, either with search &amp; replace, or using a nested grep style. But: applying the None char style doesn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; anything. It removes present character styles, but the original &lt;strong&gt;formatting&lt;/strong&gt; is preserved.
You &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; create a new character style in which you set every possible attribute to Normal (not underlined, normal case, no superscript, etc. for everything). That does not work in a GREP style for manually applied formatting, you need a search-and-replace for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken (better late than ever!),</p>
<p><cite>The GREP does two more things: it converts to upper case any word that follows a colon or a hyphen.</cite><br />
The colon stuff is in the first half, before the very first pipe character.</p>
<p>Jenn, that GREP should be</p>
<p>^[^:]+:</p>
<p>I can go into <em>great</em> detail on this GREP expression when asked &#8230; <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, there are more than a few problems. You <em>can</em> apply &#8220;[None]&#8220;, either with search &amp; replace, or using a nested grep style. But: applying the None char style doesn&#8217;t <em>do</em> anything. It removes present character styles, but the original <strong>formatting</strong> is preserved.<br />
You <em>can</em> create a new character style in which you set every possible attribute to Normal (not underlined, normal case, no superscript, etc. for everything). That does not work in a GREP style for manually applied formatting, you need a search-and-replace for that.</p>
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		<title>By: jenn stockwell</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/grep-solution-to-flawed-title-case-feature.php/comment-page-1#comment-481070</link>
		<dc:creator>jenn stockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I realize this is slightly off topic, but I am trying to do what seems like a relatively simple find/change using GREP and can&#039;t quite get it to work.

I need to search for everything up to and including a colon at the beginning of a paragraph and set the character style sheet to &#039;none.&#039;

I can go into detail if you need, but it&#039;s sort of complicated, the reasoning behind it...

Thanks for any help!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I realize this is slightly off topic, but I am trying to do what seems like a relatively simple find/change using GREP and can&#8217;t quite get it to work.</p>
<p>I need to search for everything up to and including a colon at the beginning of a paragraph and set the character style sheet to &#8216;none.&#8217;</p>
<p>I can go into detail if you need, but it&#8217;s sort of complicated, the reasoning behind it&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for any help!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Darby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Darby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of sounding like a GREP newbie, which I am, 
what purpose does the initial colon serve in this expression? I can neither find it on Mike Witherell&#039;s cheat sheet nor at www.regular-expressions.info. 

Snip
-----
Copy this (including the initial colon) into the Find what field
:sl&#124;[-s]l(?!(f&#124;he&#124;nd?&#124;o&#124;y&#124;rom&#124;or)?b)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding like a GREP newbie, which I am,<br />
what purpose does the initial colon serve in this expression? I can neither find it on Mike Witherell&#8217;s cheat sheet nor at <a href="http://www.regular-expressions.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.regular-expressions.info</a>. </p>
<p>Snip<br />
&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Copy this (including the initial colon) into the Find what field<br />
:sl|[-s]l(?!(f|he|nd?|o|y|rom|or)?b)</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh I know, I did really well up to the last sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh I know, I did really well up to the last sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kahrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kahrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;who wants one to do things in InDesign anyway?

Nice Freudian slip :)

Thanks for the nice words. You&#039;re right: it shouldn&#039;t be so difficult to do something with an editable list, similar to Autocorrect. Let&#039;s hope it&#039;ll make it in the next version. There have been many requests for it.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;who wants one to do things in InDesign anyway?</p>
<p>Nice Freudian slip <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the nice words. You&#8217;re right: it shouldn&#8217;t be so difficult to do something with an editable list, similar to Autocorrect. Let&#8217;s hope it&#8217;ll make it in the next version. There have been many requests for it.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edit to last line: Which is great, because who wants one to do things &lt;em&gt;one way&lt;/em&gt; in InDesign anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit to last line: Which is great, because who wants one to do things <em>one way</em> in InDesign anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter, my intention was not to divert attention from the GREP solution. I didn&#039;t mention that I like the GREP solution and I think it&#039;s great. You could use this solution for a lot of things. Like if you wanted certain words to be a cap first letter perhaps in the sentence. So you could search multiple words or variants of these words to make UpperCase and so on.

I still for the life of me can&#039;t figure out after 3 versions of CS that there is no option in the Paragraph or Character styles to have Title Case and so on, or have an editable table or something that can adjusted accordingly for Title Cases, leaving out conjunctions or in as needed. It&#039;s just something that has annoyed me, and I read somewhere that Adobe had corrected this in CS3 but the feature just wasn&#039;t there.

Nor was it included in the few free GREPs that were included by default.

I just don&#039;t want you think that I haven&#039;t taken note of this code and saved it in my GREPs for future use or reference, because I have.

I only thought to mention the script because I feel I&#039;m not alone in not having Smart Title Cases. Now am I not only not alone but I&#039;ve also got 2 ways of achieving the same thing. Which is great, because who wants one to do things in InDesign anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter, my intention was not to divert attention from the GREP solution. I didn&#8217;t mention that I like the GREP solution and I think it&#8217;s great. You could use this solution for a lot of things. Like if you wanted certain words to be a cap first letter perhaps in the sentence. So you could search multiple words or variants of these words to make UpperCase and so on.</p>
<p>I still for the life of me can&#8217;t figure out after 3 versions of CS that there is no option in the Paragraph or Character styles to have Title Case and so on, or have an editable table or something that can adjusted accordingly for Title Cases, leaving out conjunctions or in as needed. It&#8217;s just something that has annoyed me, and I read somewhere that Adobe had corrected this in CS3 but the feature just wasn&#8217;t there.</p>
<p>Nor was it included in the few free GREPs that were included by default.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t want you think that I haven&#8217;t taken note of this code and saved it in my GREPs for future use or reference, because I have.</p>
<p>I only thought to mention the script because I feel I&#8217;m not alone in not having Smart Title Cases. Now am I not only not alone but I&#8217;ve also got 2 ways of achieving the same thing. Which is great, because who wants one to do things in InDesign anyway?</p>
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