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		<title>By: Mike Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynn-

Ditto on the LOL. 

Just for fun, export the document as a JPEG, and say, &quot;There you go. Looks exactly like the print page, and it&#039;s ready for the website.&quot; 

In theory, you could use the same XML in DW and ID, but in my experience, it&#039;s too fragile to be a practical solution if people need to actually edit the content and revise the ID pages. Those pesky humans always get in the way! ; )

Check out Jim Maivald&#039;s excellent book,  &lt;em&gt;A Designer&#039;s Guide to Adobe InDesign and XML&lt;/em&gt; if you haven&#039;t already. It&#039;ll set the expectation level, and has some very clever tricks.

Also, tell your boss he can buy a magic button (aka a cross-media publishing system), but it&#039;s probably gonna cost a big bag of $. Depends how much magic he wants in the button. A copy of DW and a little patience is a lot cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn-</p>
<p>Ditto on the LOL. </p>
<p>Just for fun, export the document as a JPEG, and say, &#8220;There you go. Looks exactly like the print page, and it&#8217;s ready for the website.&#8221; </p>
<p>In theory, you could use the same XML in DW and ID, but in my experience, it&#8217;s too fragile to be a practical solution if people need to actually edit the content and revise the ID pages. Those pesky humans always get in the way! ; )</p>
<p>Check out Jim Maivald&#8217;s excellent book,  <em>A Designer&#8217;s Guide to Adobe InDesign and XML</em> if you haven&#8217;t already. It&#8217;ll set the expectation level, and has some very clever tricks.</p>
<p>Also, tell your boss he can buy a magic button (aka a cross-media publishing system), but it&#8217;s probably gonna cost a big bag of $. Depends how much magic he wants in the button. A copy of DW and a little patience is a lot cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lynn, your email made me LOL. Sigh. But the answer, sadly, is &quot;nope. can&#039;t do it.&quot; Adobe made the decision some time ago that people should design HTML Web pages in DW and print and RID (rich internet documents, such as pdf and some SWF) in InDesign. 

ID can export content (text, and to some degree graphics) as HTML (using the XHTML export feature in the File menu). But it completely ignores page design (&quot;geometry,&quot; where things are on the page).

I hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lynn, your email made me LOL. Sigh. But the answer, sadly, is &#8220;nope. can&#8217;t do it.&#8221; Adobe made the decision some time ago that people should design HTML Web pages in DW and print and RID (rich internet documents, such as pdf and some SWF) in InDesign. </p>
<p>ID can export content (text, and to some degree graphics) as HTML (using the XHTML export feature in the File menu). But it completely ignores page design (&#8220;geometry,&#8221; where things are on the page).</p>
<p>I hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boss wants to know: &quot;I can export my (massive) InDesign into DreamWeaver. What is the magic button that will make it immediately perfect, make it look exactly like it does in InDesign [really the version of the file that has been exported into Acrobat], make it so that I can post in to my web site right now?&quot;

Please note: This is not MY question. This is what my boss wants to know. Because, of course, the tutorials and the reference guides are &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; wrong. Either that or we have &quot;been sold a bill of goods.&quot; (&quot;The magic button&quot; is a direct quote.)

Once you stop laughing, can you give me an answer that my boss might accept? He clearly thinks that I am a stupid moron.

Thank you. You have no idea how frustrated I am, but he&#039;s my boss so I can&#039;t kill him.

Lynn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My boss wants to know: &#8220;I can export my (massive) InDesign into DreamWeaver. What is the magic button that will make it immediately perfect, make it look exactly like it does in InDesign [really the version of the file that has been exported into Acrobat], make it so that I can post in to my web site right now?&#8221;</p>
<p>Please note: This is not MY question. This is what my boss wants to know. Because, of course, the tutorials and the reference guides are <i>all</i> wrong. Either that or we have &#8220;been sold a bill of goods.&#8221; (&#8220;The magic button&#8221; is a direct quote.)</p>
<p>Once you stop laughing, can you give me an answer that my boss might accept? He clearly thinks that I am a stupid moron.</p>
<p>Thank you. You have no idea how frustrated I am, but he&#8217;s my boss so I can&#8217;t kill him.</p>
<p>Lynn</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenMarie - Creative Curio</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenMarie - Creative Curio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa! David!! Thank you so much for mentioning my InDesign articles! I&#039;ve been keeping up with InDesign Secrets for a while now (I think I&#039;ve commented once or twice) and I always recommend this site to InDesign users, beginner or otherwise. I&#039;m currently going through all of the InDesign CS3 tutorials on Lynda.com (specifically, I&#039;m watching your Essential Training right now). Even though I would consider myself fairly experienced with ID, there are little tips and tricks I&#039;m picking up in &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; video that help make me more efficient. Thank you!

I have quite a few InDesign articles, including project walk-throughs and such that are most easily accessed through the &lt;a href=&quot;http://creativecurio.com/tag/indesign/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;InDesign tag&lt;/a&gt; on my site.

Thank you again for the mention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa! David!! Thank you so much for mentioning my InDesign articles! I&#8217;ve been keeping up with InDesign Secrets for a while now (I think I&#8217;ve commented once or twice) and I always recommend this site to InDesign users, beginner or otherwise. I&#8217;m currently going through all of the InDesign CS3 tutorials on Lynda.com (specifically, I&#8217;m watching your Essential Training right now). Even though I would consider myself fairly experienced with ID, there are little tips and tricks I&#8217;m picking up in <em>every</em> video that help make me more efficient. Thank you!</p>
<p>I have quite a few InDesign articles, including project walk-throughs and such that are most easily accessed through the <a href="http://creativecurio.com/tag/indesign/" rel="nofollow">InDesign tag</a> on my site.</p>
<p>Thank you again for the mention!</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Mohd Rais</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita Mohd Rais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was stuck to learn how to create an outline for the fonts.  since this is my first time using graphic software.

luckily i reach here, now I know how to do it, it is simple, higlight the font, click type and create outline.

Thanks indesign secrets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stuck to learn how to create an outline for the fonts.  since this is my first time using graphic software.</p>
<p>luckily i reach here, now I know how to do it, it is simple, higlight the font, click type and create outline.</p>
<p>Thanks indesign secrets.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know it&#039;s free, and they have a lot of free tutorials too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know it&#8217;s free, and they have a lot of free tutorials too.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene, thanks for the link. I was sure that that site, being a Scott Kelby/NAPP site, would be the same as the one for their Photoshop magazine (read: paid access). I&#039;ll check those forums out and maybe even join up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene, thanks for the link. I was sure that that site, being a Scott Kelby/NAPP site, would be the same as the one for their Photoshop magazine (read: paid access). I&#8217;ll check those forums out and maybe even join up.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@roland, www.layersmagazine.com/forums have forums that cover everything

Most peopel are very helpful there. But welcome to the internet, no matter what forum, site, club, community etc that you&#039;re in, there will always be one or two people that have superioty complexes, and there will always be the ones that go on with their friends and single out and pick on people. 

Sometimes the superioty complex isn&#039;t that at all, it&#039;s just frustration as they may have tackled that issue on several occasions in the past month and would rather people used the search function first. 

But that&#039;s the way forums and communities are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@roland, <a href="http://www.layersmagazine.com/forums" rel="nofollow">http://www.layersmagazine.com/forums</a> have forums that cover everything</p>
<p>Most peopel are very helpful there. But welcome to the internet, no matter what forum, site, club, community etc that you&#8217;re in, there will always be one or two people that have superioty complexes, and there will always be the ones that go on with their friends and single out and pick on people. </p>
<p>Sometimes the superioty complex isn&#8217;t that at all, it&#8217;s just frustration as they may have tackled that issue on several occasions in the past month and would rather people used the search function first. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s the way forums and communities are.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do mean forums, but the Adobe ones I don&#039;t like. For one their setup isn&#039;t standard, but more importantly, a lot of people there have a severe superiority complex, making it very daunting for newbies to post if they ever find out how to even do that.

While writing my original post I did have you guys starting a forum as a suggestion, but I removed it because:
- only covering InDesign means people still have to visit multiple sites to get help: a site for Photoshop, one for Illustrator, one for InDesign, yet another site for Dreamweaver, etc. Either do it big and cover everything (merge/co-operate with other blogs), or don&#039;t bother.
- covering more than just InDesign (the entire Creative Suite + other vendors&#039; programs) doesn&#039;t fit with the blog&#039;s name.
- (experienced) moderators are a must, but not everyone knowledgeable makes a good moderator

Just the way I see it. Don&#039;t agree? I&#039;ll blame it on my glasses ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do mean forums, but the Adobe ones I don&#8217;t like. For one their setup isn&#8217;t standard, but more importantly, a lot of people there have a severe superiority complex, making it very daunting for newbies to post if they ever find out how to even do that.</p>
<p>While writing my original post I did have you guys starting a forum as a suggestion, but I removed it because:<br />
- only covering InDesign means people still have to visit multiple sites to get help: a site for Photoshop, one for Illustrator, one for InDesign, yet another site for Dreamweaver, etc. Either do it big and cover everything (merge/co-operate with other blogs), or don&#8217;t bother.<br />
- covering more than just InDesign (the entire Creative Suite + other vendors&#8217; programs) doesn&#8217;t fit with the blog&#8217;s name.<br />
- (experienced) moderators are a must, but not everyone knowledgeable makes a good moderator</p>
<p>Just the way I see it. Don&#8217;t agree? I&#8217;ll blame it on my glasses <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roland, well, I think the best &quot;active, established, free-to-join community&quot; is right here at indesignsecrets! ;) However, if you&#039;re talking about forums, it&#039;s probably the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adobe forums&lt;/a&gt;, which I forgot to add to that list. Yes, it&#039;s run by Adobe, but it tends to be pretty independent of Adobe.

Or are you talking about a different kind of community? We have considered launching forums here, if there is enough interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roland, well, I think the best &#8220;active, established, free-to-join community&#8221; is right here at indesignsecrets! <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  However, if you&#8217;re talking about forums, it&#8217;s probably the <a href="http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Adobe forums</a>, which I forgot to add to that list. Yes, it&#8217;s run by Adobe, but it tends to be pretty independent of Adobe.</p>
<p>Or are you talking about a different kind of community? We have considered launching forums here, if there is enough interest.</p>
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