September 22 2008 • 6:47 PM

InDesignSecrets Podcast 087


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  • InDesign CS4 New Feature Overview!
    • Our favorite new features… the small, geeky ones of course
    • The “big guns” new features
    • Ones we think are a little weird
    • A few early bird tips and techniques for the new features–we couldn’t help ourselves (replay this podcast after you get your upgrade)
  • Obscure InDesign Feature of the Week: User

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  1. September 23rd, 2008 • 4:30 am • Link

    Any improvements on the footnotes? and is it possible to do endnotes yet?

  2. September 23rd, 2008 • 5:37 am • Link

    Hi Raphael, nothing new in footnote land, and no, no endnotes feature.

  3. Eugene
    September 23rd, 2008 • 5:45 am • Link

    That is absolutely ridiculous regarding footnotes. It’s a feature that is being screamed for since CS2, well at least I have being.

    Well, at least there’s loads of new panels to play with.

    Thanks for the update.

  4. September 23rd, 2008 • 6:09 am • Link

    Hmm, sadly, it seems as if this ID upgrade is more like a 3.3 upgrade than a 4.0 one. Now Photoshop CS4 is getting heaps of HUGE improvements, so it’s certainly worthwhile for me to also upgrade ID via the Design Premium suite — which is a very reasonable $600 for the whole shebang — but I’m feeling a bit disappointed on behalf of all us ID lovers.

  5. David Blatner
    September 23rd, 2008 • 6:12 pm • Link

    Klaus, it all depends on what features you need in particular. I can tell you that for many ID users, just one or two features in CS4 will pay for the upgrade — for example, cross-references and grep styles. For others, the ability to export SWF and XFL will be the ones that pay for the upgrade. I mean, those will save a huge amount of time for some users.

    What is “bubkes” to one user is “gold” to another. ;)

  6. September 24th, 2008 • 9:22 am • Link

    David

    PDf’’s XObjects technology is present in ID’s Distiller Lib from the first version I think, from v2 pretty sure.

  7. September 24th, 2008 • 9:52 am • Link

    David, I quite agree, so we have no argument. My point is rather that, compared to the HUUUGE additions and improvements in PS CS4, the ID changes are, well, simply modest — or “evolutionary, not revolutionary,” as you yourself wrote. I will certainly upgrade to the new ID as soon as it becomes available and I’m sure I’ll be happy with the various changes — it’s just that I *hoped* to be happier than I actually will be. :-) The non-existence of footnote improvements, for instance, is a bad blow, and I will be cursing the ID management team now and then when I have to run a script to convert footnotes to endnotes — a clumsy, annoying one-way operation.

  8. Scott
    September 30th, 2008 • 12:54 pm • Link

    So, if there’s no endnote feature, can I presume there is no footnotes in Tables either?!? (or are we still doing it the old fashion way, manually with character and paragraph styles.)

    How about support for tables to forms in PDFs without Acrobat (I only make PDF forms a few times a year, so Acrobat isn’t worth the expense for me)?

    Oh, and how strict is the G5 or dual processor intel requirement? I work in a small family run business that only has one G5, the rest are G4’s (that run InDesign and Photoshop quite well, by the way). (And, yes, there is a reason for it and it involves VERY expensive engineering software that never made it to Mac OSX.)

  9. alexgurin
    October 30th, 2008 • 5:09 pm • Link

    IDCS3 has no support for endnotes (Only Sonar Bookends InFnote as a plug-in). CS4 introducing cross-references, so we should be able to use paragraph numbering for the endnotes and cross-references for the markers (manually). MANUALLY!
    Why can’t it be like in office_word cross-references?

  10. Joel Hakoune
    January 5th, 2010 • 7:32 am • Link

    Hi,
    i’ve just found a really cool solution for all the lacking features of the footnotes (in tables, endnotes, different text boxes and even different files! you name it!)

    This blog gives the solution for endnotes, but it’s the same principle for the other issues. The point is by using cross-referrence:

    http://blogs.adobe.com/indesigndocs/2009/03/endnotes_in_indesign_cs4.html

    good luck,

    Joel-H.

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