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		<title>By: Peter Christofferson</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/performing-a-pre-work-check.php/comment-page-1#comment-468610</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Christofferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;Show Frame Edges&quot; is turned off, turn it on, then scan through the document looking for empty text and graphic frames. It&#039;s surprising how many designers leave empty frames lying around on their pages and  pasteboard. This can be a real pain in the neck when, for example, you&#039;re trying to select something and a pointless, empty box keeps getting in your way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;Show Frame Edges&#8221; is turned off, turn it on, then scan through the document looking for empty text and graphic frames. It&#8217;s surprising how many designers leave empty frames lying around on their pages and  pasteboard. This can be a real pain in the neck when, for example, you&#8217;re trying to select something and a pointless, empty box keeps getting in your way.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &quot;Check the Layers panel to see if you have yet another reason to complain to/yell at the creator of the file for not using layers correctly&quot;? It&#039;s the first thing I always do... although I must admit I am addicted to layers ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8220;Check the Layers panel to see if you have yet another reason to complain to/yell at the creator of the file for not using layers correctly&#8221;? It&#8217;s the first thing I always do&#8230; although I must admit I am addicted to layers <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Control, I&#039;m not sure, but it sounds as though you are asking about tagged text. I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-tagged-text-is-not-xpress-tags.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;something about that here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Control, I&#8217;m not sure, but it sounds as though you are asking about tagged text. I wrote <a href="http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-tagged-text-is-not-xpress-tags.php" rel="nofollow">something about that here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Control</title>
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		<dc:creator>Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Please, I need the first line that makes ID CS3 to understand the  codes in word files. When I work with PageMaker I simply put  and then I put  in the beginning of each paragraph. It were simply. For long files is the best way work, but I can&#039;t find the line for ID CS3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Please, I need the first line that makes ID CS3 to understand the  codes in word files. When I work with PageMaker I simply put  and then I put  in the beginning of each paragraph. It were simply. For long files is the best way work, but I can&#8217;t find the line for ID CS3.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, that&#039;s an interesting idea, but I wouldn&#039;t waste the paper. Instead, I just press W a few times on each to turn Preview mode on and off. The before-and-after is a nice way to get a sense for what &quot;disappears&quot; (is non-printing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, that&#8217;s an interesting idea, but I wouldn&#8217;t waste the paper. Instead, I just press W a few times on each to turn Preview mode on and off. The before-and-after is a nice way to get a sense for what &#8220;disappears&#8221; (is non-printing).</p>
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		<title>By: "Technical" Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>"Technical" Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the document (that we are &quot;pre-working&quot;) isn&#039;t too long, I would suggest printing it.  This gives an idea how the page may &quot;assemble&quot;, margins (or lack of), and possible &quot;non-printing&quot; objects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the document (that we are &#8220;pre-working&#8221;) isn&#8217;t too long, I would suggest printing it.  This gives an idea how the page may &#8220;assemble&#8221;, margins (or lack of), and possible &#8220;non-printing&#8221; objects.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Roosch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnold Roosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sandee,

Thank you for your comments on the document (which is available again above). I understand your reasons to get familiar with the document, by cruising around within InDesign, but from a practical point of view, there are tools to assist for this.

I would want to know if the document can be trusted before I put my energy in working with it. To stay in your analogy; it is great to explore the electric controls and the likes, but before you enter the room in a house you just want to make sure you don&#039;t fall through the floor, the roof will come down or that you get electrocuted when you switch on the lights...

I believe that almost all the checks on your list work even better AFTER preflighting the foundations of the document.

Many we know use electronic preflight methods before opening and editing someone else&#039;s work, in prepress and in design/layout - I think that should be made clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sandee,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments on the document (which is available again above). I understand your reasons to get familiar with the document, by cruising around within InDesign, but from a practical point of view, there are tools to assist for this.</p>
<p>I would want to know if the document can be trusted before I put my energy in working with it. To stay in your analogy; it is great to explore the electric controls and the likes, but before you enter the room in a house you just want to make sure you don&#8217;t fall through the floor, the roof will come down or that you get electrocuted when you switch on the lights&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe that almost all the checks on your list work even better AFTER preflighting the foundations of the document.</p>
<p>Many we know use electronic preflight methods before opening and editing someone else&#8217;s work, in prepress and in design/layout &#8211; I think that should be made clear.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great answer, Sandee! I would also like to second the point that FlightCheck is a wonderful app, but not the tool for this particular job. Also, Arnold does have a slight bias, as he works for Markzware -- just so everyone knows who is talking here. ;)

It looks like Arnold may have removed that Word doc; the URL no longer works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great answer, Sandee! I would also like to second the point that FlightCheck is a wonderful app, but not the tool for this particular job. Also, Arnold does have a slight bias, as he works for Markzware &#8212; just so everyone knows who is talking here. <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It looks like Arnold may have removed that Word doc; the URL no longer works.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnold,

I appreciate your post and I have read your Word document.

I think you have misunderstood the reason that I posted this Pre-Work Check.

First, the check has nothing to do with output. It is not for the press or service provider who needs to open and output a file.

While FlightCheck is able to handle some of the issues I mentioned, it really is not the right application for what I am trying to accomplish.

First, you have to understand that I posted my list for those who are going to continue to work on someone else&#039;s work -- work that they are not familiar with.

The purpose of my list is to help someone familiarize themselves with the project. My suggestion for scrolling through the pages panel has less to do with counting the number of pages than it does with becoming comfortable with the document.

In fact, the very fact that FlightCheck &quot;will not only reveal the number of pages in seconds&quot; makes FlightCheck the wrong application to use.

I don&#039;t want people to speed through the pages, styles, colors, fonts, and images in a document.

My Pre-Work Check is to slow them down so they understand how the document was created.

Next, in your Word document you said &quot;you want to see what happens when an image is modified, but with a missing link the image is just not there.&quot; 

That&#039;s not true. There is not a blank space in the frame. There is a proxy image that gives an excellent idea of what the designer or author intended.

Finally, the trouble with your scenario to use FlightCheck is that it doesn&#039;t give the new creator for the document a chance to really navigate around the file.

FlightCheck is excellent for output providers and should actually be done at several steps in the document creation process. But my list is a better idea than FlightCheck.

The analogy I like is the one for someone who might own a home. FlightCheck is an excellent process to go through if you are going to put your house on the market and want to know if there will be any issues when people come to look.

FlightCheck is a excellent process to go through before you go to contract on the sale of a house.

But a Pre-Work Check is the process you want to go through when you rent a house for the summer and want to know where the electric controls are, how to turn on the TV, is there a WiFi system, what&#039;s the password for the system, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnold,</p>
<p>I appreciate your post and I have read your Word document.</p>
<p>I think you have misunderstood the reason that I posted this Pre-Work Check.</p>
<p>First, the check has nothing to do with output. It is not for the press or service provider who needs to open and output a file.</p>
<p>While FlightCheck is able to handle some of the issues I mentioned, it really is not the right application for what I am trying to accomplish.</p>
<p>First, you have to understand that I posted my list for those who are going to continue to work on someone else&#8217;s work &#8212; work that they are not familiar with.</p>
<p>The purpose of my list is to help someone familiarize themselves with the project. My suggestion for scrolling through the pages panel has less to do with counting the number of pages than it does with becoming comfortable with the document.</p>
<p>In fact, the very fact that FlightCheck &#8220;will not only reveal the number of pages in seconds&#8221; makes FlightCheck the wrong application to use.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want people to speed through the pages, styles, colors, fonts, and images in a document.</p>
<p>My Pre-Work Check is to slow them down so they understand how the document was created.</p>
<p>Next, in your Word document you said &#8220;you want to see what happens when an image is modified, but with a missing link the image is just not there.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not true. There is not a blank space in the frame. There is a proxy image that gives an excellent idea of what the designer or author intended.</p>
<p>Finally, the trouble with your scenario to use FlightCheck is that it doesn&#8217;t give the new creator for the document a chance to really navigate around the file.</p>
<p>FlightCheck is excellent for output providers and should actually be done at several steps in the document creation process. But my list is a better idea than FlightCheck.</p>
<p>The analogy I like is the one for someone who might own a home. FlightCheck is an excellent process to go through if you are going to put your house on the market and want to know if there will be any issues when people come to look.</p>
<p>FlightCheck is a excellent process to go through before you go to contract on the sale of a house.</p>
<p>But a Pre-Work Check is the process you want to go through when you rent a house for the summer and want to know where the electric controls are, how to turn on the TV, is there a WiFi system, what&#8217;s the password for the system, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Roosch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnold Roosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I agree on checking every element from a document you mention in your text, I respectfully have to disagree on the methods you are using to get there and the comment that FlightCheck Professional only checks for fonts or images. FlightCheck Professional is a stand alone application that will check for hundreds of potential pre-press problems and does so in seconds. In todays printing rooms, or even when creating there is simply no time to check everything with the eyeball method and before a file is prepaired for output, it has to be complete and error free. Once your reach the deadline, there is no time to start communicating with the client about missing fonts, images, colour gamut and the likes. “Quality is every ones responsibility” Demming said, so why not automate what you can?
The comments I wrote where too long to post here so please download the &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.markzware-europe.com/PreWorkCheckANDcomment.doc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Word document from here&lt;/a&gt;. I hope they are useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I agree on checking every element from a document you mention in your text, I respectfully have to disagree on the methods you are using to get there and the comment that FlightCheck Professional only checks for fonts or images. FlightCheck Professional is a stand alone application that will check for hundreds of potential pre-press problems and does so in seconds. In todays printing rooms, or even when creating there is simply no time to check everything with the eyeball method and before a file is prepaired for output, it has to be complete and error free. Once your reach the deadline, there is no time to start communicating with the client about missing fonts, images, colour gamut and the likes. “Quality is every ones responsibility” Demming said, so why not automate what you can?<br />
The comments I wrote where too long to post here so please download the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.markzware-europe.com/PreWorkCheckANDcomment.doc" rel="nofollow">Word document from here</a>. I hope they are useful.</p>
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