Podcast 050 Transcript
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David “Mr. InDesign” Blatner: Welcome to InDesign Secrets episode 50! I’m David Blatner along with my beautiful co-host Anne-Marie Concepcion. 50! We’re 50!
Anne-Marie “HerGeekness” Concepcion: David, you don’t look a day over 35.
David: Awww, shucks. Thank you, thank you.
Anne-Marie: 50 you know is a big milestone for podcasts.
David: It is, it is. It’s very exciting; I can’t believe we, we made it here. About a year and half after starting we’re finally at 50.
Anne-Marie: That’s right. And we have come a long way.
David: We have.
Anne-Marie: after, from episode one, I mean we didn’t even start doing our obscure InDesign Feature of the Week until episode 4, I think. And we started out with 20 listeners…
David: Yeah.
Anne-Marie: …and now I just checked this morning and our average listenership per episode is close to 6000.
David: Wow.
Anne-Marie: Which just amazes me.
David: Wow. Over 50 and that, over 50 episodes so that’s, that’s almost that must be almost like 300,000 total listeners, listenings.
Anne-Marie: Yes. That’s right, that’s right. That, according to our stats over 300,000 people have completely downloaded the episode.
David: Wow.
Anne-Marie: Whether they listened to it or they just had it on in the background while they’re making dinner, I don’t know but 300,000 people downloaded it.
David: Well, not necessarily 300,000 different people but 300,000 people.
Anne-Marie: One guy, 300,000 times, yeah downloaded it.
David: Fascinating, fascinating. And the blog, of course the blog has bloomed and blossomed. We now have over, almost 150, 000 people a month reading the blog. So that’s, that’s exciting as well. It’s, there’s a lot, a lot, a lot of interest in InDesign and we are excited to be the…
Anne-Marie: Yes.
David: …independent resource for all things in design on the web.
Anne-Marie: Hey, David I was looking at our podcast stats; guess which episode had the most listeners. But don’t include like the first five, the first five of any podcast always has the most listeners because lots of people start listening from the very beginning.
David: Ooh, yeah that’s a good point.
Anne-Marie: Ok, so yeah, from number six to where, number 49.
David: Yeah, yeah.
Anne-Marie: which one do you think?
David: I don’t know. What do you think?
Anne-Marie: Any one stick out in your mind?
David: They’re all so good.
Anne-Marie: It was our New Year’s episode.
David: Ok.
Anne-Marie: Where we had all sorts of information for new InDesign users.
David: Oh, that would make sense.
Anne-Marie: Five Top Things New InDesign Users Should Know, and Cool Tools and Resources for Newbies.
David: Yeah, that would make a lot of sense because there are so many new InDesign users out there; probably a lot of people go back see that we talked about all the important stuff that, that new users should know and download that one. That’s an excellent one. Of course, this doesn’t even include the people who go in and read the transcripts. There are a lot of people who can’t listen to the podcasts…
Anne-Marie: That’s right.
David: …for one reason or another so they actually just want to read the transcripts and for…just a reminder for those of you who are listening out there, all transcripts have been uploaded, I believe or almost all of them.
Anne-Marie: Yeah.
David: And so you can go search through them and you know print them out and all that stuff. So the transcripts are up there as well, that’s kind of exciting.
Anne-Marie: Yeah, and the transcripts are faithful. I mean sometimes painfully faithful to what we say.
David: [laughs]
Anne-Marie: All of our mistakes; calling panels palletes…
David: That’s right.
Anne-Marie: And all sorts of you know wrong menu choice items…
David: There you go.
Anne-Marie: …and all sorts of things like that but it’s very useful. We’ve gotten some kudos from websites that are all about people who have hearing impairments because it’s you know completely left out of whole podcasts, videocasts being that they can’t hear what the person is saying.
David: Yup.
Anne-Marie: So being able to have a transcript for every podcast episode is greatly appreciated. So we always link to them, right in our show notes in case you can’t find them. We don’t really have a category for them but and we usually about maybe one or two episodes behind; it takes a few days for our transcription service to turn them around.
David: Yeah. So what are we going to talk about on today’s show?
Anne-Marie: All right, so for this week, we are going to announce last week’s Quizzler winner.
David: Oh, yeah.
Anne-Marie: Remember the Quizzler about where do you find the system color in InDesign?
David: Oh, yeah a hard one.
Anne-Marie: Yeah, we got some really good answers too. Some general InDesign news, we’re going to discuss the issue of unembeddable fonts–having a typebase that you make a PDF and it says, “Sorry, you can’t include this, any of the glyphs in this typebase in your PDF.” What to do?
Our hot button post of the week is, how to export a list of all the links in your InDesign file. And in this in question sent in by a user, “I’ve got this big long list of links, I need to print them out, how do I do that?”
David: Yeah.
Anne-Marie: So we have some interesting ways. And our obscure InDesign feature of the week.
David: eek.
Anne-Marie: eek.
David and
Anne-Marie: eek.
Anne-Marie: is a CS3 feature called Crop Amount.
David: Crop Amount.
Anne-Marie: Crop Amount, it’s a new feature and it’s obscure. So, two-for-one.
David: There you go.
Anne-Marie: Thought it would be fitting for our 50th episode to actually start out with a CS3 obscure InDesign feature.
David: Excellent. Well first, let’s get the Quizzler out of the way, talking about the Quizzler stuff. Last week’s Quizzler, as you mentioned Anne-Marie is, had to do with the system color picker, whether it’s the Windows Color Picker or the Mac OS Color Picker, how do you find that within InDesign?
And it was a pretty tricky one, but the answer is anytime you find a pop-up menu where it gives a list of a whole bunch of colors and at the very bottom of that pop-up menu it says, “Custom,” you choose Custom and you’ll see the OS Color Picker.
And there are a number of places where this happens, actually, as it turns out. For example, the Layer Color, if you want to change the color of a layer, you can pick a color there and click “Custom” at the bottom or in “Preferences” by changing, you can change the color of gridlines, the darkness.
Anne-Marie: Right, or under the layout menu.
David: Layout menu.
Anne-Marie: The guides.
David: Oh, ruler guides, same thing there as well. And that, this is CS2 or CS3–probably CS1 as well. So it shows up in various places and that was really exciting too, because some people really had to search hard to find a bunch of those. But the winner of that, we had one winner, actually we had a number of people who answered correctly a few answered incorrectly, it was hard after all–but the winner of that is from Iraq: Mamoon Tai’e. And I’m not sure if I’m pronouncing that correctly but, Mamoon, you’re the winner.
Anne-Marie: So, congratulations.
David: Congratulations, indeed. We’re going to be sending out a poster, is that right?
Anne-Marie: Yeah, the InDesign CS2 keyboard shortcuts poster. Excellent.
David: Excellent.
Anne-Marie: So, let’s go on to some other InDesign news. I wanted to bring up that Adobe recently posted all of the free tryouts for their CS3 design and web suites. So if you’ve been itching to get your hands on InDesign CS3, but your company’s not ready to purchase it yet, you just want to check it out. Go ahead and download them. We’ll have the link in our show notes. Or Illustrator, Photoshop, DreamWeaver, all of them–all of the web and design suites.
David: Cool.
Anne-Marie: And for the first time, if you decide to purchase it, you can purchase it and then just enter your serial number right inside the trial version. You don’t have to uninstall it and reinstall the one that you just got, so I love that.
David: Great.
Anne-Marie: And also, whether or not you want to download those, what I thought was interesting is that, actually a few weeks ago, Adobe uploaded all of the documentation for the Creative Suite 3 products.
David: Wow. Really?
Anne-Marie: Yeah. We’re going to have the URL. You can go to that URL and it says, “Choose the name of the product that you want from the drop-down menu.” So I chose “InDesign” and you can get the entire help file, it’s like a 700-page PDF. You can download it, or you can look at the live version of online help.
Click that link, and it opens up in a window where you’re on the Adobe site, but it looks like you’re looking at online help. See, you could do the search and look at the table of contents, and look at keyboard shortcuts for all the products.
David: Wow.
Anne-Marie: Yeah, it’s just amazing.
David: So, basically, all the documentation…
Anne-Marie: Thank you, Adobe. Thank you very much.
David: Yes, thank you. That is awesome. Well, the part of me that speaks for users says, ‘Thank you very much.’ The part of me that writes third-party computer books says, ‘What are you thinking? Are you insane? Don’t give that stuff away!’
Anne-Marie: [laughs]
David: But for the users, I think it’s great, I think it’s great. That is great that they’re uploading that.
Anne-Marie: Well, it really helps people fully evaluate the software. I don’t know for sure, but I don’t think the trial versions come with the help system.
David: Oh, that’s interesting. That’s a good point, right. So, you need that if you’re just evaluating it.
Anne-Marie: Yeah, OK. Also, more news: There is a new InDesign blog on the way.
David: Yeah!
Anne-Marie: And we like it very much. It is Tim Cole’s InDesign Channel Blog.
David: Yeah, the InDesign Channel.
Anne-Marie: The InDesign Channel, where he’s got tips and tricks, and he is probably the non-independent resource for all things InDesign.
[both laugh]
Anne-Marie: He works for Adobe, but he’s a good friend of ours and we’re going to be sharing information and helping each other. So, check it out. We’ll put a link in our show notes to his site.
David: Yeah, the cool part is we get to talk about stuff from, again, the user perspective, the independent, outside perspective.
Anne-Marie: Right.
David: But he’s going to have the opportunity to go in and actually talk with Adobe people. So, every now and again, the plan is for us to lob over a question to him and he’ll go and talk to the engineers and get the inside scoop, the inside story, the back channel, on this such-and-such feature. I just lobbed something over to him about that butterfly Easter egg in CS3.
Anne-Marie: Yeah.
David: We’ve got some questions about that, that we need some inside scoop on. And so, he’s going to go talk to the engineer that actually put that in there, and try to get some answers. So, he’ll be able to do some of that background stuff from within InDesign and bring that out.
Anne-Marie: He’s like our “Deep Throat.”
David: There you go. He would appreciate that.
Anne-Marie: I won’t go any further with that. All right.
[both laugh]
Anne-Marie: All right, and then the last bit of news that we after-mention one more time is that the InDesign Conference 2007 is coming up quickly June 4th through June 8th in New York City.
David: Yeah.
Anne-Marie: And you can still use our coupon code to get $100 off the registration fee. And then, also, we should tell you to start planning, because more conferences are coming up where we’ll be speaking, or the other people that you know and love are contributors and other people will be speaking at conferences in Melbourne. That’s August 30th and 31st, that’s in Australia.
David: Yes, that’s the InDesign Conference, great speakers. Some of our subscribers and listeners have heard Cari Jansen on that podcast. Cari will be there, also Mike McHugh.
Anne-Marie: [laughs]
David: You know, I’m American. What am I going to do?
Anne-Marie: That’s right. You’re a Merc.
David: And so, Cari’s going to be there, and Mike McHugh is going to be there, and Sandee Cohen will be there as well–very excited to have everyone there at the Melbourne InDesign Conference.
Anne-Marie: That’s right. Dress warm, because isn’t that deep winter over there? August 30th?
David: That’s a good point. It’s like upside-down there.
Anne-Marie: Yes, that’s right.
David: Good point.
Anne-Marie: And then, also Tokyo in mid-September, there’s going to be Creative Suite/PDF Workflow Conference, correct?
David: Yes. More information coming on that, including official dates, time, place, and everything, but we’ll get you more information if you are anywhere in the Tokyo area.
Anne-Marie: And then, back in Chicago, a Creative Suite conference October 15th through 20th. Woo-hoo!
David: The ultimate Creative Suite 3 Summit, with everything you ever wanted to know about the Suite. Anne-Marie and I both will be speaking there, of course, as well as many of your other favorite authors and trainers.
Anne-Marie: Right. Mayor Daley.
David: [laughs] There you go.
Anne-Marie: I like to see him speak.
David: OK. Well, we’ll see what we can do.
Anne-Marie: [mockingly] “Uh, yeah, this is how you use Photoshop, yeah.”
David: [laughs] OK. So, that’s October 15th through 20th in Chicago. Hope to see you at any one of those things. It would be lots of fun. In the meantime, we should talk about unembeddable fonts. Let’s just do a quick thing, because this drives some people completely berserk.
The whole issue of working with a font, working with your layout, and you’re trying to make a PDF and it says it cannot imbed the font. What is going on there?
Anne-Marie: Not an issue with Adobe fonts, I don’t believe.
David: No, all Adobe fonts are embeddable. Most font foundries, in fact, let their fonts be embedded in PDFs, but there is a little flag inside the font that will stop it from being embedded. It’s the little “don’t embed me in a PDF” flag.
And some font developers and vendors feel strongly that they don’t want people embedding their fonts, and they turn on that little flag, and it drives every one of their users completely bonkers.
Anne-Marie: That’s right. We got an email from somebody who asked us about this, because there’s a company called Letterfonts.com. The hard-working owner–and Letterfonts has a beautiful display font faces–just got tired of the piracy. He said that people were selling his fonts on eBay and it was just ridiculous. So he stopped selling them as individual fonts, and now you have to actually run an application to see the fonts in your menus.
David: It’s a really clever thing that they did.
Anne-Marie: I’ve never heard of it before.
David: I’ve never heard of it. I haven’t tried it, but it sounds like a very clever thing that they’re doing to stop piracy. And you have to understand, I’m all for font vendors stopping piracy. Absolutely. People just swap fonts left and right as though they were Kleenex or something. And font vendors need to do something, but… [laughs]
Anne-Marie: It’s pretty draconian, what he did. Pretty draconian, and it’s caused a lot of controversy in the field of type design.
David: It has caused a lot of controversy. And because of how the fonts are installed or not installed, and you can’t manage them with font management utilities, and so on, a lot of people are quite angry.
Anne-Marie: You can’t even save them in an Illustrator file. If you save your Illustrator file, you’ll get an error. You have to turn off “embed the fonts.” That means you have to have his font application loaded and working when you open the file in order to be able to edit the text.
His solution is just convert all of the text to outlines before you make a PDF. The end result is the same, he says, which I think is also a little controversial. But I think less so for display fonts; it would be different if it was text fonts.
David: Yeah, I think the only way he can get away with this is that his fonts are really designed for large display font format. You absolutely couldn’t do it for small, tiny text. It is not going to be the same on a low-resolution printer, but on a high resolution output in wouldn’t matter. Whether you convert to outlines or not, it will look the same, so that’s not a big deal.
But that said, I still question his not allowing the fonts to be embedded in PDFs. Because, really, think about it. Even if someone embeds a font in a PDF, in order to get the font out you would have to go into the PDF and tweak it. I mean I guess theoretically there is a way to get fonts out of a PDF, but nobody does that! Nobody! You have to be seriously serious about piracy in order to do that, and nobody is ever going to defeat those pirates.
The pirates that people need to defeat are the ones who just very casually, “Oh yeah, here’s this font. I’ll email it to you.” Those people are the one’s who are being hurt by this PDF embedding thing.
I’ll say for the record, I strongly believe that any font vender who stops people from embedding fonts in a PDF is really making a wrong decision. I personally would never buy a font that you couldn’t embed in a PDF; it’s just insane in my mind.
Anne-Marie: Yeah, I wonder what’s going to happen with his sales. He did say in a very long thread on typophile. – is it dot com or dot org? We’ll have the link. – He responded to a lot of people and said that his sales have gone up. But that was back in January, and I wonder what they’ve been like so far.
I think it should go as a feature article in “Ink Magazine”: A gutsy move made by a small type foundry, about how to combat piracy of his fonts. It’s a fascinating story.
David: Again, you can always get around it by converting the text to outlines before you make your PDF. Or, as Branislav Milic pointed out, and I think we talked about in an earlier podcast at one point, you don’t have to convert to outlines. It should work if you use a transparency flattener that converts text to outlines as well. Didn’t we talk about that in an earlier podcast?
Anne-Marie: I think we did.
David: It’s all a blur now, now that we’re 50 it’s all a blur looking back.
Anne-Marie: [laughs] We’ve got what’s-his-faces disease.
David: Exactly. It is a…[laughs]
Anne-Marie: [laughs] I love that joke.
[laughter]
David: I’m slow on the uptake, but very funny!
Anne-Marie: Yeah.
David: Anyway, there are ways to convert to outlines when you make a PDF. I just find it really annoying. Again, I’m all for people protecting their intellectual property, but not if it stops people from embedding fonts in PDFs. That’s all I have to say about that. Do you have anything more to say about that?
Anne-Marie: No. No, I do not. I’m sorry to see it happen. I think a lot of times people are like, “Why does the preflight function in InDesign have this thing about fonts if the fonts are OK?” And it’s because there are some fonts that do not allow embedding.
David: Good point.
Anne-Marie: If you only use Adobe fonts you’re like, “What is this about?” But there are many, many typeface foundries than Adobe.com, believe it or not, and you really have to look at the end user license agreement before you purchase the font to see what you can do with it.
David: Yeah, that’s a really good point. Always be sure to check. Before you buy a font from anywhere, make sure you read that license, or at least the frequently asked questions or whatever. You have to know what you can and cannot do with a font.
Anne-Marie: All right, let’s go on to the hot button post of the week. The one that garnered a lot of response started out as an email from one of our listeners who asked David and I, “How can I make a list of all the links in my file? I’ve got a really long list of placed images and we need to give this list to somebody else to do something with. How do you do that?” David broke it up as a post, and David, you included a solution that involved – what was it, the report?
David: Yeah, basically using preflight. You could choose preflight out of file, and then click “Report.” You would get a report that has all of that information in there. It’s a text file that you can open in any text editor. The problem is…
Anne-Marie: It’s surrounded by a lot of crap.
David: [laughing] Yeah, basically. There’s just far too much information in there, so you have to cull it out. Someone was pointing out that you could use grep to go in there and search and pull that stuff out, which I thought that was a clever idea.
Anne-Marie: What I usually do–and I think I’ve posted this–when I need to do that I’ll do a “Copy Links To.” Select out the links in the links palette or panel, choose “Copy Links To” from the panel menu, bring them all into their own folder and then switch over to the finder in the MAC. If you select all the names of those files and copy it, then go into a word processor and choose “Paste,” you don’t actually paste the actual images; you paste the file names one after the other.
That’s kind of a clunky work-around. Although I do confess I always look in the links panel menu to see if maybe little green men overnight added a “Print” command. That would be nice.
David: That would be very, very nice. I’d love that. The problem with what you’re describing is that you don’t get any missing images. If you don’t have the images there, then you would be lost. So that would be one problem. You also don’t get any other information about it, like: What’s the file path for the original file? Or what’s the resolution?
Anne-Marie: And sometimes it will screw things up if you actually start moving files around. You have to keep them on the server for some amount of time or something like that.
David: Right, so there are some other solutions. And of course the ultimate answer is always: Well, there’s a script for that. [laughs] We had two people comment on scripts. One guy – a guy named Steve – said, “Hey, I just wrote a script and I uploaded it to the Adobe Exchange.” The problem is that it’s taking so long for the Adobe Exchange to actually post it, that we still haven’t tried his script so we don’t know how well it works.
Somebody else said, “Our script has already been written and we have it here on the Swiss InDesign Forum.” That was kind of cool, so I went and checked it out. The only problem there is that the alerts that sometimes pop up are all in German. So I emailed back and they did a quick translation of it into English.
Anne-Marie: Oh, that’s nice!
David: We have now uploaded that script to InDesignSecrets.com, so you can download it from that…
Anne-Marie: I kind of would like the German version. [jokingly] Achtung!
David: That’s right. [laughter]
Anne-Marie: Das licherspiels are verboten!
David: It was really just one important alert there, which is you have to save your file before it works, so I was confused: why am I getting this alert? Because I don’t speak Deustch- and I can’t even use the word Deustch- and I couldn’t figure out what was going on and I finally realized, “Oh, I need to save the file first.” But now, we have an alert in that script that says you need to save the file first in English.
Anne-Marie: So what else does the script create?
David: Well, the script simply writes a text file in the same folder as the InDesign file, and the text file has a list of every image, the file path and, I think, the resolution and the scaling of it, and so on. It’s very, very clever. It basically takes the kind of information that’s in the info palette and puts it in this little text file. So you can just open that up in Excel or whatever, and you’re done.
Anne-Marie: Excellent, excellent.
David: So free, easy, very, very fast.
Anne-Marie: Love that. And it’s JavaScript, so it’s cross-platform?
David: Yeah, it’s JavaScript so it’s cross-platform. I didn’t think it was working at all, actually, because it just was going too fast.
Anne-Marie: And nothing happens?
David: Yeah, nothing happened and I realized that something was happening. It was just going faster than I expected.
That was written by Martin Fisher, I believe. I think maybe in Switzerland or somewhere out there. So, Martin- thank you so much for writing that and sharing it with the world.
Anne-Marie: Thank you, Herr Fisher.
David: Yes, indeed.
Anne-Marie: OK, our obscure InDesign feature of the week…
David: Eek! Eek! [laughter] One more time…
Anne-Marie: A little monkey there.
David: It’s true! [monkey noises]
Anne-Marie: OK, our obscure InDesign feature of the week is…
David: Crop Amount.
Anne-Marie: Yes.
David: Let’s talk about Crop Amount a little bit. It’s a new feature in CS3, and where do you find Crop Amount?
Anne-Marie: It is part of the new fitting commands.
David: Yeah.
Anne-Marie: So you select a new image or an empty image frame. Go to “Object Fitting.” You won’t see it in the flyout menu, but you go down to the bottom under “Frame Fitting Options.”
David: Frame Fitting Options.
Anne-Marie: And that whole thing is a new feature in that you can create an empty frame and say, “Whenever I place an image in here, it should be scaled thusly.” You can also save that as an object style too, so it brings it…
David: Well, you can’t, just to be clear, you can’t say, “Scale it to 50 percent.” You can say, “scale it to fit image,” “fit into frame proportionally,” that kind of thing. All of the fitting options can be applied automatically, which is awesome. I love this feature.
Anne-Marie: So, when you open up that Frame Fitting Option dialog box, above the drop down menu for how you want to fit to an empty frame are four fields for Crop Amount, with a place where you enter a measure for top, bottom, left, and right. They have the handy dandy “make all settings the same” button there.
David: Mmm-hmm.
Anne-Marie: And the Crop Amount…I’ve heard the whole feature called the “yearbook feature”–and I’ve taught people to create yearbooks and that’s a job that you have to pay me a bazillion dollars to do–but the issue is that a lot of the pictures taken for yearbooks have an automatic quarter of an inch or third of an inch of white border around them, and they need to crop that out every time they place it.
So you could say that whenever I place a picture into this image frame, I want you to crop out a quarter of an inch all the way around.
David: Yeah.
Anne-Marie: And it will scale the image so that a quarter of an inch has been cropped out.
David: Yeah, and sometimes I’ve found that it’s deceptive because you’ll set up the Frame Fitting Options and you’ll set up a Crop Amount, and it’ll come in and you’ll be like, “Hey, a quarter inch wasn’t cropped out here. What happened?”
It does the cropping first. So it basically crops the original file a quarter inch or 20 millimeters, 10 millimeters, whatever…and then it does the fitting. So the fitting, if it scales way down to fit inside of a frame- you may not get exactly the same effect that you were expecting. Just one thing to keep in mind.
Anne-Marie: Well, I was playing with this before we started talking about, and I seem to be getting really excellent results regardless.
I know that we have that caution of “it does the cropping first, then the scaling,” but I’ll give you an example of one image where I put in an empty image frame with a colored background, brought in an image, and set it to do a negative crop, so it insets the image. You can do a negative amount in those fields…
David: Oh, clever!
Anne-Marie: So you can inset the image, so you can create your own borders if you wanted to.
David: Hey.
Anne-Marie: And I brought in an image and it gave it, like, a quarter inch crop, and I brought in another image that was much larger. Like, I compared a web graphic to a 300-dpi scan. And it brought that in and it has the same one pica crop all the way around.
David: But you’re talking about a negative crop.
Anne-Marie: Yeah.
David: So that’s intriguing. I wonder if negative cropping amounts work differently. We’re going to have to play with that a little bit. Maybe do a post on that.
Anne-Marie: Yeah.
David: Very clever.
Anne-Marie: I didn’t know I was so clever. [laughter]
David: Very clever. I R genius! [laughter]
Anne-Marie: Well, it’s just easy to see the results, I guess, sometimes, when you do a negative rather than positive…
David: Right.
Anne-Marie: You could always select with the Direct Selection Tool and see what’s poking out. The only thing I really wish we had in this crop feature is to be able to have a crop but not scale the image. I want to keep the same resolution. So, in other words, I want to be able to say, “Crop this, but resize the frame.”
David: Oh…
Anne-Marie: There’s no “fit frame to content” with the crop. It always scales the image.
David: Yes, very interesting. Yeah…
Anne-Marie: Which is what you want for yearbook pictures because all the boxes should be the same size, but if you’re just trying to place a whole bunch of images and you want them all cropped the same, sometimes you don’t care about how big the frames are.
David: We’re going to have to play with that.
Anne-Marie: And it’s more important to just keep them at the same resolution, you know?
David: Hmm, hmm… all right.
Anne-Marie: The feature request for CS4.
David: Sounds like a good feature request. OK…fascinating.
Anne-Marie: But all you see is three people, and whether you bought it or downloaded the free trial, you should check that out.
David: Yeah.
Anne-Marie: Cool new feature to play with.
David: And it’s very obscure. Wonderful, wonderful…
OK, well, that’s it for episode 50. 50! 50! 50!
Anne-Marie: 50! 50! We are 50!
David: [laughter] We would love to hear…
Anne-Marie: I want to do Molly Shannon from Saturday Night Live every time I hear “50.” [jokingly] Fif-tay!
David: [laughter] We’d love to hear your feedback. Go ahead and post a comment on the show notes at the blog, at InDesignSecrets.com. Or email us at InDesignSecrets.com…no, info @ InDesignSecrets.com.
Anne-Marie: That’s right.
David: Got ahead of myself there. You know, we can’t always respond to all of your emails immediately. We do try to respond to them all, but you know we get a lot of emails. So sometimes we just post…
Anne-Marie: Wait. Before we sign off, I just want to say, David?
David: Yes.
Anne-Marie: Congratulations. Happy 50th.
David: [laughter] Happy 50th, Anne-Marie.
Anne-Marie: My partner in crime.
David: Happy 50th. It’s been good and it’s going to only get better.
Anne-Marie: That’s right.
David: Great. Until we meet again, this is David Blatner…
Anne-Marie: And Anne-Marie Concepcion for InDesign Secrets.
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