http://indesignsecrets.com/rebuilding-indesign-preferences.php

Yes that’s correct. I’ve tried selecting with the direct selection tool and the selection tool and the text tool but it’s always greyed out.

How might I rebuild the preferences please?

Thanks

I’m finding when I select the text frame I want to convert, the options to change the content are greyed out. Any ideas there???

Thanks

I had initially written that [None] = [No Paragraph], but then I did a couple tests and for some reason I repeatedly got [Basic Paragraph] so I changed my comment. Of course I can’t repeat those results now, so I must have been doing something weird or dreaming.

On your second point, we’re saying the same thing, but you put it much more concisely. Thanks.

to 1: As long the Object Style [None] is applied to the frame, the resulting paragraph style is always [No Paragraph Style]. The resulting font is always Times.

to 2: If an object style was applied which ignores paragraph style, you will get every paragraph style which is selected with nothing selected.

Like they say on Facebook, “it’s complicated,” but I’m pretty sure there are 3 scenarios:

1. It’s an object drawn with the rectangle, ellipse, or polygon “frame” tools (the ones with the X in them), or any frame with the [None] object style applied. These will give you [No Paragraph Style] or [Basic Paragraph], depending on which is set with nothing selected. On my machine it’s Times.

2. It’s a frame with an applied object style that ignores paragraph style. This includes [Basic Text Frame], and [Basic Graphics Frame] by default. These will also give you [No Paragraph Style] or [Basic Paragraph] unless another style is selected in the Paragraph Styles panel. Then you get that style.

3. It’s a frame with an applied object style that applies a paragraph style. You get that paragraph style.

Clear as mud? I think what makes it confusing is that object styles can contain paragraph styles, even when they’re applied to graphics frames.

- Have Myriad Pro as Default (no objects selected, Paragraph Format = [No Paragraph Format].
- Use [No object Style].
- No Plus!

Responsible alone are specific attributes of the Rectangular Frame. Proof:

- Create a Graphic Frame.
- Convert into Text Frame.
- Myriad Pro!

I asked Adobe to change the preset setting to “Type Tool Converts …”. Reaction: “Not a bug.”