Comments on: Sequential Numbering Inside Paragraphs http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php InDesignSecrets Blog and Podcast Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:47:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Joshua Scult http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-312415 Joshua Scult Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:26:40 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-312415 Well, not all is lost. You can do the fottnotes in another Doc and then cut and paste the Textframe and it will RETAIN the the options set in the original doc and not be affected by the settings of the doc it was pasted into. I wish I had the time (and brains) to make something that would automate this...sigh Joshua Well, not all is lost. You can do the fottnotes in another Doc and then cut and paste the Textframe and it will RETAIN the the options set in the original doc and not be affected by the settings of the doc it was pasted into. I wish I had the time (and brains) to make something that would automate this…sigh

Joshua

]]> By: Klaus Nordby http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-312301 Klaus Nordby Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:32:36 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-312301 Joshua, I described this problem in my post #5 -- the footnote settings are doc-global. I know no present solution to your problem -- which is why we still need Adobe to code a counter! And we also need to be able to set up footnotes which are frame-wide, not just column-wide. And, natch, we need headings which are frame-wide, spanning multiple columns -- so the ID engineers can't retire quite yet. :-) Joshua, I described this problem in my post #5 — the footnote settings are doc-global. I know no present solution to your problem — which is why we still need Adobe to code a counter! And we also need to be able to set up footnotes which are frame-wide, not just column-wide. And, natch, we need headings which are frame-wide, spanning multiple columns — so the ID engineers can’t retire quite yet. :-)

]]> By: Joshua Scult http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-310813 Joshua Scult Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:52:52 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-310813 Wow, this is a great idea for a terrible problem I have been having.(p.s. David helped me with this) I want to have textbox with 2 columns with footnotes running across the bottom of those columns in one column. ID CS3 footnotes can't handle this. So I have added fake footnote refs in the doc. using this idea. Now the footnotes themselves I can create in another text frame and use this idea again to create them and then manually place them at the bottom of the page. The only problem however with this is the FN options carrry across the whole doc. right? So even if I create a second doc for the footnotes themselves with different options and then later paste it into the main doc it'll get messed up right? any solutions? Wow, this is a great idea for a terrible problem I have been having.(p.s. David helped me with this)
I want to have textbox with 2 columns with footnotes running across the bottom of those columns in one column. ID CS3 footnotes can’t handle this. So I have added fake footnote refs in the doc. using this idea. Now the footnotes themselves I can create in another text frame and use this idea again to create them and then manually place them at the bottom of the page. The only problem however with this is the FN options carrry across the whole doc. right? So even if I create a second doc for the footnotes themselves with different options and then later paste it into the main doc it’ll get messed up right?
any solutions?

]]> By: Andrew Herzog http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308905 Andrew Herzog Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:03:48 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308905 No, I was basing that remark off of the graphic shown for the post "Numbering Lines of Text". That graphic made it look like you were numbering paragraphs and I was thinking this was doing the same thing. Probably just getting my Posts Crossed. No, I was basing that remark off of the graphic shown for the post “Numbering Lines of Text”. That graphic made it look like you were numbering paragraphs and I was thinking this was doing the same thing.

Probably just getting my Posts Crossed.

]]> By: Klaus Nordby http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308812 Klaus Nordby Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:16:28 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308812 David, Bob & Sandee -- thanks! And fear not for me and my hatless head, for here in Oslo we've been having a splendidly fallish-springish winter all winter, with glorious spring conditions today. But of course, my Inline Counter is still cool! David, Bob & Sandee — thanks! And fear not for me and my hatless head, for here in Oslo we’ve been having a splendidly fallish-springish winter all winter, with glorious spring conditions today. But of course, my Inline Counter is still cool!

]]> By: Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308773 Sandee "vectorbabe" Cohen Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:51:30 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308773 Whoa! Way cool. (I would expect nothing less cool from Norway!) Whoa! Way cool. (I would expect nothing less cool from Norway!)

]]> By: Klaus Nordby http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308763 Klaus Nordby Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:41:54 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308763 Andrew: "If they are to be removed, won’t you have to remove all 1300+, one at a time?" No. For our friend Ctrl-F fixes that also, and in near-zero time. I did some export tests. A plain .TXT export omits all the numbers, not even leaving a blank space. .RTF keeps the numbers, making them hyperlinks to the non-existing footnotes. Ditto for the XHTML export. Andrew: “If they are to be removed, won’t you have to remove all 1300+, one at a time?”

No. For our friend Ctrl-F fixes that also, and in near-zero time.

I did some export tests. A plain .TXT export omits all the numbers, not even leaving a blank space. .RTF keeps the numbers, making them hyperlinks to the non-existing footnotes. Ditto for the XHTML export.

]]> By: David Blatner http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308612 David Blatner Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:18:49 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308612 Andrew, these will definitely stay in when you print. Would you want them for screen display only? Andrew, these will definitely stay in when you print. Would you want them for screen display only?

]]> By: Andrew Herzog http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308566 Andrew Herzog Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:55:52 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308566 Just for my curiosities. Will these numbers stay in the document when you print? If they are to be removed, won't you have to remove all 1300+, one at a time? If they are removed, won't this cause the potential for reflow? Just for my curiosities.

Will these numbers stay in the document when you print?

If they are to be removed, won’t you have to remove all 1300+, one at a time?

If they are removed, won’t this cause the potential for reflow?

]]> By: Klaus Nordby http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308414 Klaus Nordby Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:22:00 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/sequential-numbering-inside-paragraphs.php#comment-308414 I have now permanently "baked" the Inline Counter system into my InDesign defaults. With no documents open, I made a "Counter" CharStyle and a "Zero Footnote" ParStyle, with those crucial zero-level type size attributes, and selected them in the Document Footnote Options. I also added a blank space as a prefix and a period and a blank space as a suffix. Then I made a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl-Alt-F) for the Footnote/Counter. So now Inline Counters can be inserted anywhere and anytime with close to zero efforts. The only drawback is that it's impossible to both have Inline Counters and Footnotes in the same document, since the Document Footnote Options are document-wide. So I'd still want Adobe to implement Inline Counters in CS4 -- but this will tide me over. I have now permanently “baked” the Inline Counter system into my InDesign defaults. With no documents open, I made a “Counter” CharStyle and a “Zero Footnote” ParStyle, with those crucial zero-level type size attributes, and selected them in the Document Footnote Options. I also added a blank space as a prefix and a period and a blank space as a suffix. Then I made a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl-Alt-F) for the Footnote/Counter. So now Inline Counters can be inserted anywhere and anytime with close to zero efforts.

The only drawback is that it’s impossible to both have Inline Counters and Footnotes in the same document, since the Document Footnote Options are document-wide. So I’d still want Adobe to implement Inline Counters in CS4 — but this will tide me over.

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