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Splitting Up Threaded Stories into Separate Frames

Daniel wrote:

I've linked boxes of text throughout a whole document. Is there a quick/simple way to unlink these boxes without losing the formatting/flowing of the text?

Yes! Next question?

Oh, sorry, you want more details? We talked about this a bit back in Podcast Episode 49, but if you skipped that one, here's the deal:

There is a really slow way, and two fast and easy ways. Obviously, for the sake of character-building, we have to look at the slow way first.

When you duplicate a text frame in a thread (such as by Option/Alt dragging it, or using cut and paste), the duplicate contains all the text that was in it, plus all the text to the end of the story... but not the text that was in previous frames. So you could duplicate the frame, place the cursor at the end of the frame, press Command/Ctrl-Shift-End to select from that point to the end of the story (which is currently overset), press Delete, then go back to the original thread and remove that same chunk from the thread. Then repeat.

Okay, now lets look at two ways that sane people would use. First, there's a script called SplitStory. It's free. It ships with CS2 and CS3. In CS3, it's actually installed for you automatically -- just look in the Scripts panel, inside the Samples folder. In CS2, you may have to find it on your install discs or on the Adobe Web site. I use the javascript version. Here's the original thread:

splitstory1

Here's the script:

splitstory2

Here's what happens when you double-click on that script:

splitstory3

Yay! Pretty cool, eh? For most people that does exactly what they need. Job finished.

Unfortunately, there is (at least) one side effect that you need to watch out for. If the thread splits paragraphs in the middle (as in the thread above), and the paragraph has a first line indent, then that first line indent gets applied to all the pieces of the paragraph. For example, I reverted back to the original thread, gave the paragraph a first line indent, and ran the script again:

splitstory4

So that's a pain. But in most cases where paragraphs aren't actually split across frames, the script works beautifully. Plus, it's free, and you probably already have it, so that's good.

That said, there is an even more powerful option: The Clever TextLink plug-in from aextra software. It does way more than the script does, including giving you options for splitting stories right in the middle of a frame. It's Clever (thus its name)!
That would be the end of the story, but I have to add one more mailbag email that came in on the same subject... just because of the opening line:

Tom wrote: So I stumped the guys on the Adobe help line about this for hours. I inherited a document that had threaded pages. Our books are image heavy and threading drives me batty when I need to move pages around. So how do you unthread pages? Is it possible? The guys at Adobe said no.

I definitely don't want to give the tech support staff at Adobe a bad time -- they have an incredibly hard job. But if any of them are reading this: Make sure you know about all those free scripts!
They're lifesavers!

David Blatner
David Blatner is the co-founder of the Creative Publishing Network, InDesign Magazine, and the author or co-author of 15 books, including Real World InDesign. His InDesign videos at Lynda.com are among the most watched InDesign training in the world. You can find more about David at 63p.com.
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31 Comments on “Splitting Up Threaded Stories into Separate Frames

  1. Great tips David. But alas, there’s another way, on the PC I hold down ALT when clicking the outport, then I hover over until I get these two little links and click it again, the cursor gets loaded with text, I can click anywhere and it will remake, or I can redraw a container, but I can simply press escape to unload the cursor, and the text chain is broken!

  2. In addition to the above information, I found that the standard script limited me to split all frames, so took it a step further, and wrote StorySplitter (CS to CS3 compatible), which is available for download from Adobe Exchange, that enhances your ability to control the splitting method, adding choices to split it in half by frame selection.
    It’s also available as CS3 attached script, that will be uploaded soon.

  3. Mmmm.. now that I’ve got to test what I just said, it seems that just breaks the story, not split it. Why is it made so hard using the conventional tools?

  4. And let me remind you that you can find this feature in Illustrator under Type > Threaded Text > Remove Threading, so why not in InDesign?

  5. >That said, there is an even more powerful option: The Clever TextLink plug-in from aextra software. It does way more than the script does, including giving you options for splitting stories right in the middle of a frame. It?s Clever (thus its name)!

    Not for CS3 yet! Only CS2…

  6. Um, one other side effect (that I noticed from your example:

    Take a look at the first threaded frame in the example. It ends with a broken (hyphenated) word. The second thread begins with the word completion.

    The split frames seem to have dropped that hyphenation.

    You would need to add a hard hyphen to that word once the frames were split, or else recompose things just a bit.

    Still, YATIWLF!* :-)

    –Matt

    *Yet Another Thing I Was Looking For

  7. Matt, great catch. Wow, that is dangerous. Well, again, I think this script is best used when each frame is really self-contained.

  8. I now need the opposite. Let’s say you do this and you need them rethreaded. Or in my case, I have a 400 page document (via Data Merge), I really need the text all continuous, so I’m trying to thread 400+ pages at a time. Is this possible?

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    • You saved me from driving off a cliff. I inherited a pre-formatted 250-page ID doc with text threaded from frame to frame throughout and have been fighting a terrible battle every time I needed to rearrange or change content in the frames. They seemed to have a life of their own. But now I have cut the the maddening threads. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart.

  10. Does Clever Text Link still work with InDesign CC? I can’t find it online anywhere, other than this thread mentioning it.

    A client of mine is getting text in a long document of about 100 pages, all threaded together, and just wants to split the text at the end of each chapter. They would like all the frames in each chapter to remain threaded.

    Split story breaks it up into completely separate frames. I tried using Rorohikos TextStitch but that didn’t work either; perhaps I wasn’t using it right?

    Is there a current plugin or script that will break a thread and keep everything before and after the break threaded (i.e. break 10 threaded frames into 2 sets of 5)?

  11. Thanks, David! Looks like that will do the trick!

    I hope you have all this info in a database somewhere, because if it was all in your brain, I’d be concerned about your risk of spontaneous combustion, like those drummers in Spinal Tap.

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