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	<title>Comments on: Stroke Tints Change When Converted to Outlines</title>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/stroke-tints-change-when-converted-to-outlines.php#comment-468981</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dina, pretty much all trapping is based on setting strokes. However, in general, trapping should be handled by a computer, not human. Most printers will handle the trapping for you, often in-RIP.

As for gradients, it's usually a good idea to use built-in gradients or gradient meshes rather than blends, I think, as it ends up using some clever shading mechanisms. Many people find gradients look better from Photoshop, as you can add dithering/noise. It's a tricky business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dina, pretty much all trapping is based on setting strokes. However, in general, trapping should be handled by a computer, not human. Most printers will handle the trapping for you, often in-RIP.</p>
<p>As for gradients, it&#8217;s usually a good idea to use built-in gradients or gradient meshes rather than blends, I think, as it ends up using some clever shading mechanisms. Many people find gradients look better from Photoshop, as you can add dithering/noise. It&#8217;s a tricky business.</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, does anyone know a good way to trap reverse or white type in indesign.... besides using a stroke... and right now I'm using a stroke and not sure if it's going to work.

This is a PDF X1A file and would love some help here.... anything... this thing has to go to print tonight. 

also created a 600 step blend in illustrator put it into photoshop on top of the ad page pulled it into indesign the PDF looks great but I'm worried about banding. does anyone
know a rule here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, does anyone know a good way to trap reverse or white type in indesign&#8230;. besides using a stroke&#8230; and right now I&#8217;m using a stroke and not sure if it&#8217;s going to work.</p>
<p>This is a PDF X1A file and would love some help here&#8230;. anything&#8230; this thing has to go to print tonight. </p>
<p>also created a 600 step blend in illustrator put it into photoshop on top of the ad page pulled it into indesign the PDF looks great but I&#8217;m worried about banding. does anyone<br />
know a rule here?</p>
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		<title>By: cy_auyeung</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/stroke-tints-change-when-converted-to-outlines.php#comment-316994</link>
		<dc:creator>cy_auyeung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we outline the text in table, we will have the outlined text + the original copy in CS2 or CS3. How can we just only get the outlined text?

Thanks

cy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we outline the text in table, we will have the outlined text + the original copy in CS2 or CS3. How can we just only get the outlined text?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>cy</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if there's a font similar to Geosanslight, but thicker?  Or is there a way to thicken Geosanslight up?  thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if there&#8217;s a font similar to Geosanslight, but thicker?  Or is there a way to thicken Geosanslight up?  thanks</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tina, why on earth would you be opening the file in Photoshop if the job is destined to print? That will rasterize the whole thing (convert it to a bitmapped image). Except in very rare cases, that would be a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina, why on earth would you be opening the file in Photoshop if the job is destined to print? That will rasterize the whole thing (convert it to a bitmapped image). Except in very rare cases, that would be a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to convert text to outlines for print if you submit the file as an eps or pdf, because when you open eps, and sometimes pdf, in Photoshop or another program in order to print, the system will need the original fonts if they are not converted. You could submit the fonts in the package to service provider but much simpler fix to convert to out lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to convert text to outlines for print if you submit the file as an eps or pdf, because when you open eps, and sometimes pdf, in Photoshop or another program in order to print, the system will need the original fonts if they are not converted. You could submit the fonts in the package to service provider but much simpler fix to convert to out lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Lukas834</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/stroke-tints-change-when-converted-to-outlines.php#comment-3873</link>
		<dc:creator>Lukas834</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bhushan,
update your InDesign to the latest version (4.0.4) and you will have no problem with converting text. However you'll still have a possibility to assign a shortcut also to "Create outlines without deleting text" (Edit -&#62; Keyboard Shortcuts; Product Area: Other)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bhushan,<br />
update your InDesign to the latest version (4.0.4) and you will have no problem with converting text. However you&#8217;ll still have a possibility to assign a shortcut also to &#8220;Create outlines without deleting text&#8221; (Edit -&gt; Keyboard Shortcuts; Product Area: Other)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Saunders</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/stroke-tints-change-when-converted-to-outlines.php#comment-3434</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I should have typed [evin grin] apparently.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I should have typed [evin grin] apparently.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also set it by script .

But a vertically angled gradient applied to text just doesn't behave the way any reasonable person would want it. That's why I had to convert to outlines -- I had no control over the design of the document in question; my job was to produce it.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also set it by script .</p>
<p>But a vertically angled gradient applied to text just doesn&#8217;t behave the way any reasonable person would want it. That&#8217;s why I had to convert to outlines &#8212; I had no control over the design of the document in question; my job was to produce it.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/stroke-tints-change-when-converted-to-outlines.php#comment-3412</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, you're experiencing one of the great limitations of Gradient Swatches: That you cannot set their angle by definition. You can only set the angle in the Gradient palette, the Object Style definition (which obviously doesn't help with text), or with the Gradient tool (by dragging over the selected text).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you&#8217;re experiencing one of the great limitations of Gradient Swatches: That you cannot set their angle by definition. You can only set the angle in the Gradient palette, the Object Style definition (which obviously doesn&#8217;t help with text), or with the Gradient tool (by dragging over the selected text).</p>
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