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	<title>Comments on: The InDesigner &#8211; Episode 46 (VIDEO): Baby, It&#8217;s Christmas Time!</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Wells</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/the-indesigner-episode-46-video-baby-its-christmas-time.php/comment-page-1#comment-267021</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. That&#039;s the way I have done it traditionally. The piece will be 10&quot; x 22-1/2&quot; folding to 10&quot; x 7-1/2&quot;. The idea of being able to print the individual pages was intriguing. I&#039;ll check out DTP Tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. That&#8217;s the way I have done it traditionally. The piece will be 10&#8243; x 22-1/2&#8243; folding to 10&#8243; x 7-1/2&#8243;. The idea of being able to print the individual pages was intriguing. I&#8217;ll check out DTP Tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim -- In the event of a six-page layout, I would do either of two things:

1) I&#039;d make each three-page spread a single page, and use the slug area to put in the proper fold marks. This would be good for a smaller piece (i.e. a CD booklet) that could be accommodated for proofing on an 11x17 page; or

2) I&#039;d create a three-page spread and use guides and the slug area to put in a corrected crop mark and design the page with that small difference accounted for.

InDesign doesn&#039;t inherently support different-sized document pages, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=pcid&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DTP Tools&#039; Page Control plug-in&lt;/a&gt; adds that functionality if you want to work that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8212; In the event of a six-page layout, I would do either of two things:</p>
<p>1) I&#8217;d make each three-page spread a single page, and use the slug area to put in the proper fold marks. This would be good for a smaller piece (i.e. a CD booklet) that could be accommodated for proofing on an 11&#215;17 page; or</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;d create a three-page spread and use guides and the slug area to put in a corrected crop mark and design the page with that small difference accounted for.</p>
<p>InDesign doesn&#8217;t inherently support different-sized document pages, but <a href="http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=pcid" rel="nofollow">DTP Tools&#8217; Page Control plug-in</a> adds that functionality if you want to work that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I loved this videocast. As you mentioned above, this works great for a 6-page layout. I am in the process of designing such a gatefold brochure.

What do you about the inner page size. As you know, the inner page should have a shorter width than the outside two for folding purposes. How do you deal with that? Is there a way to make them a different size without affecting the other pages? Do you use the slug area to put in a trim mark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I loved this videocast. As you mentioned above, this works great for a 6-page layout. I am in the process of designing such a gatefold brochure.</p>
<p>What do you about the inner page size. As you know, the inner page should have a shorter width than the outside two for folding purposes. How do you deal with that? Is there a way to make them a different size without affecting the other pages? Do you use the slug area to put in a trim mark?</p>
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		<title>By: maritza</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/the-indesigner-episode-46-video-baby-its-christmas-time.php/comment-page-1#comment-265701</link>
		<dc:creator>maritza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish i could make it to miami and away from all this NEW ENGLAND snow (thank goodness for the patriots!!!!)....but i&#039;ll have to wait until michael comes to the boston area although i may be able to make a sacrifice of some sort to check out the classes in DC!!! very cool!

and mr. david blatner, i have some of your books and lemme tell ya, your a great teacher as well. truly you are! and so is anne-marie...goodness, you&#039;re all people i admire highly and respect in this industry.

thanks

have a nice evening fellas!

-maritza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish i could make it to miami and away from all this NEW ENGLAND snow (thank goodness for the patriots!!!!)&#8230;.but i&#8217;ll have to wait until michael comes to the boston area although i may be able to make a sacrifice of some sort to check out the classes in DC!!! very cool!</p>
<p>and mr. david blatner, i have some of your books and lemme tell ya, your a great teacher as well. truly you are! and so is anne-marie&#8230;goodness, you&#8217;re all people i admire highly and respect in this industry.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>have a nice evening fellas!</p>
<p>-maritza</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I&#039;m blushing. And just had to pull myself away from my deadline to respond and say thanks to Maritza (and David) for the kind words. If anyone&#039;s looking for more up-close and personal teaching from me, then look into the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theindesigner.com/masterclass&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adobe InDesign CS3 Master Class for Designers&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ll be teaching 6 times this year in the greater D.C. area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#8217;m blushing. And just had to pull myself away from my deadline to respond and say thanks to Maritza (and David) for the kind words. If anyone&#8217;s looking for more up-close and personal teaching from me, then look into the <a href="http://www.theindesigner.com/masterclass" rel="nofollow">Adobe InDesign CS3 Master Class for Designers</a> I&#8217;ll be teaching 6 times this year in the greater D.C. area.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/the-indesigner-episode-46-video-baby-its-christmas-time.php/comment-page-1#comment-265026</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maritza, Michael is definitely a great teacher... If you can make it to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.barrycon.com/conference.php?sid=1&amp;cid=40&amp;cp=idsecrets&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The InDesign Conference&lt;/a&gt; (the next one is Feb 28 in Miami), you can see him in person!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maritza, Michael is definitely a great teacher&#8230; If you can make it to <a href="http://www.barrycon.com/conference.php?sid=1&#038;cid=40&#038;cp=idsecrets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The InDesign Conference</a> (the next one is Feb 28 in Miami), you can see him in person!</p>
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		<title>By: maritza rivera</title>
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		<dc:creator>maritza rivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello michael,
yet again, another incredible episode. my goodness, i wish i could be a fly on the wall and watch you as you work at your job.

i love your method of teaching...you are articulate with your words and make learning fun. 

ever given thought to joining the bandwagon of professionals that teach online such as all those guys at photoshop user/layers magazine like: scott kelby, corey barker, rc concepcion, dave cross? if you set up a tutorial website with weekly tutorials  on indesign, photoshop, illustrator, etc....i&#039;m sure you&#039;d have quite the following of people willing to pay for your teaching services! I SURE WOULD!!!!!!

btw....happy new year to you!

maritza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello michael,<br />
yet again, another incredible episode. my goodness, i wish i could be a fly on the wall and watch you as you work at your job.</p>
<p>i love your method of teaching&#8230;you are articulate with your words and make learning fun. </p>
<p>ever given thought to joining the bandwagon of professionals that teach online such as all those guys at photoshop user/layers magazine like: scott kelby, corey barker, rc concepcion, dave cross? if you set up a tutorial website with weekly tutorials  on indesign, photoshop, illustrator, etc&#8230;.i&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d have quite the following of people willing to pay for your teaching services! I SURE WOULD!!!!!!</p>
<p>btw&#8230;.happy new year to you!</p>
<p>maritza</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Lym</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/the-indesigner-episode-46-video-baby-its-christmas-time.php/comment-page-1#comment-260173</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Lym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
As a designer I appreciate your page reordering method.  But as a printer it throws a wrench into our automated imposition system, and, likely, InDesign&#039;s own imposition system.

Is there a way to export the document so it retains the logical page sequence but still allows the designer to see the spread as it will be printed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
As a designer I appreciate your page reordering method.  But as a printer it throws a wrench into our automated imposition system, and, likely, InDesign&#8217;s own imposition system.</p>
<p>Is there a way to export the document so it retains the logical page sequence but still allows the designer to see the spread as it will be printed?</p>
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		<title>By: SuperZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo! Brilliant as always. Thanks for the excellent show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! Brilliant as always. Thanks for the excellent show.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/the-indesigner-episode-46-video-baby-its-christmas-time.php/comment-page-1#comment-244911</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron -- How perfect that you say the videocast reminds you of a cooking show. I&#039;ve always thought of them exactly that way: identifying the basic ingredients, putting them together, and always having the dish already finished in the oven. I hope people take away from it what I take away from cooking shows, which is the fundamentals of what ingredients work together, and why. And that they then go mix them up their own way to produce something totally unique.

Regarding your specific question, the compound-path-inside-a-frame solution came to me after having already pasted the silhouette figures in a frame to better manage moving that artwork around and cropping it. The first thing I did was group it, but realized almost immediately that it would quickly become cumbersome, couldn&#039;t be cropped, and would require another frame behind it to create the contrasting color. A compound path popped into my head as an alternative to grouping (for easy selection), and working with the silhouette figures earlier in the design process had that in my head already.

The rest is videocast history. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron &#8212; How perfect that you say the videocast reminds you of a cooking show. I&#8217;ve always thought of them exactly that way: identifying the basic ingredients, putting them together, and always having the dish already finished in the oven. I hope people take away from it what I take away from cooking shows, which is the fundamentals of what ingredients work together, and why. And that they then go mix them up their own way to produce something totally unique.</p>
<p>Regarding your specific question, the compound-path-inside-a-frame solution came to me after having already pasted the silhouette figures in a frame to better manage moving that artwork around and cropping it. The first thing I did was group it, but realized almost immediately that it would quickly become cumbersome, couldn&#8217;t be cropped, and would require another frame behind it to create the contrasting color. A compound path popped into my head as an alternative to grouping (for easy selection), and working with the silhouette figures earlier in the design process had that in my head already.</p>
<p>The rest is videocast history. <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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