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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/the-missing-fn-key-and-numbers.php/comment-page-1#comment-473768</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found that on my MacBook Pro (Unibody), holding the &quot;Fn&quot; key and pressing the arrow keys turns them into the diagonal direction keys you normally would have on the numpad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found that on my MacBook Pro (Unibody), holding the &#8220;Fn&#8221; key and pressing the arrow keys turns them into the diagonal direction keys you normally would have on the numpad</p>
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		<title>By: Sandee &#34;vectorbabe&#34; Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandee &#34;vectorbabe&#34; Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa!!!

This is too, too cool!

And it even works to assign style keyboard shortcuts.

And there&#039;s even an option to keep the iPhone from going to sleep when the app is running.

And there are several skins for the appearance of the number pad.

I love it!

It&#039;s a little weird to press the Cmd on the regular keyboard the the number on the iPhone, but it works!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!!!</p>
<p>This is too, too cool!</p>
<p>And it even works to assign style keyboard shortcuts.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s even an option to keep the iPhone from going to sleep when the app is running.</p>
<p>And there are several skins for the appearance of the number pad.</p>
<p>I love it!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a little weird to press the Cmd on the regular keyboard the the number on the iPhone, but it works!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another fun idea, if you have an iPhone: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativepro.com/article/iphone-apps-designers&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff Carlson&lt;/a&gt; recently pointed out a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.balmuda.com/northamerica/laboratory/numberkey/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;number keypad app for the iPhone&lt;/a&gt;! You type on it, and the  numbers appear on the Mac. Haven&#039;t tried it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another fun idea, if you have an iPhone: <a href="http://www.creativepro.com/article/iphone-apps-designers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jeff Carlson</a> recently pointed out a <a href="http://www.balmuda.com/northamerica/laboratory/numberkey/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">number keypad app for the iPhone</a>! You type on it, and the  numbers appear on the Mac. Haven&#8217;t tried it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blatner</title>
		<link>http://indesignsecrets.com/the-missing-fn-key-and-numbers.php/comment-page-1#comment-470446</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lou: Wow! KeyRemap4MacBook seems to be exactly the ticket. The lack of an Enter key in the lower-right corner of this new macbook pro&#039;s keyboard threatened to drive me insane (even though the Fn-Return would work, it&#039;s nice having a one-handed key there). There are so many other useful remapping features in there! Thanks for the recommendation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lou: Wow! KeyRemap4MacBook seems to be exactly the ticket. The lack of an Enter key in the lower-right corner of this new macbook pro&#8217;s keyboard threatened to drive me insane (even though the Fn-Return would work, it&#8217;s nice having a one-handed key there). There are so many other useful remapping features in there! Thanks for the recommendation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Kash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Kash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;UPDATE&lt;/b&gt;
It gets even better. :)

Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KeyRemap4MacBook&lt;/a&gt;.
However, &lt;i&gt;do not&lt;/i&gt; download version 5.1.0, instead go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/list.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt;, scroll down to the comments and look for a reply from the developer regarding NumPad/NumLock, offering a download for version &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/files/KeyRemap4MacBook-5.1.60.pkg.tar.gz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;5.1.60&lt;/a&gt;.
This version will automatically activate a “virtual” NumPad, exactly as we used to love it, with all Fn keys in place. (For us users of the Swiss keyboard particularly the “Num+” key is of major importance, because the Swiss layout otherwise doesn’t provide a dedicated “+” key!) 
Additionally, besides of many other obscure key remap possibilities, you can also get your &lt;i&gt;Enter key&lt;/i&gt; back instead of the right-hand option key.

Of course, this solution is rather something for experienced users. While I can’t report any problems after few days of use, as you can read in the ChangeLog on the download page, previous versions of this software &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; sometimes cause your Mac to behave weird. So act on your own risk…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>UPDATE</b><br />
It gets even better. <img src='http://indesignsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/" rel="nofollow">KeyRemap4MacBook</a>.<br />
However, <i>do not</i> download version 5.1.0, instead go to <a href="http://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/list.html" rel="nofollow">this page</a>, scroll down to the comments and look for a reply from the developer regarding NumPad/NumLock, offering a download for version <a href="http://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/files/KeyRemap4MacBook-5.1.60.pkg.tar.gz" rel="nofollow">5.1.60</a>.<br />
This version will automatically activate a “virtual” NumPad, exactly as we used to love it, with all Fn keys in place. (For us users of the Swiss keyboard particularly the “Num+” key is of major importance, because the Swiss layout otherwise doesn’t provide a dedicated “+” key!)<br />
Additionally, besides of many other obscure key remap possibilities, you can also get your <i>Enter key</i> back instead of the right-hand option key.</p>
<p>Of course, this solution is rather something for experienced users. While I can’t report any problems after few days of use, as you can read in the ChangeLog on the download page, previous versions of this software <i>could</i> sometimes cause your Mac to behave weird. So act on your own risk…</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Kash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Kash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a new “old” MacBook Pro (Early 2008 with &lt;em&gt;matte&lt;/em&gt; display!), I can confirm that the omission of Num keys on Apple notebooks is highly unfortunate. But it sort of lines up into Apple’s recent “efforts” to drive long time professional users away from portable Macs. Oh well.

But I have found a &lt;b&gt;workaround&lt;/b&gt;. However, for initial setup it &lt;em&gt;requires&lt;/em&gt; an older Mac &lt;em&gt;with&lt;/em&gt; integrated NumPad – or an external keyboard (not tested).

1) Install an application which is able to execute global actions based on your custom keyboard shortcuts. I can highly recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.manytricks.com/butler/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Butler&lt;/a&gt;, which can do that with ease, and &lt;em&gt;much&lt;/em&gt; more. (Don’t forget to donate!)

2) In Butler set all of your original InDesign NumPad shortcut variations using a NumPad keyboard and assign to them the new “numpadless” shortcuts you want to use instead. For example: set &lt;i&gt;cmd-num1&lt;/i&gt; to be executed by pressing &lt;i&gt;cmd-ctrl-1&lt;/i&gt;. (Basically you are simply replacing the fn key with the ctrl key.) Also, it’s more safe to set Butler to execute each shortcut in InDesign &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt;. You should also check that none of these shortcuts are already in use in ID.

3) If you were not performing the previous steps on your numpadless MacBook (with an external keyboard attached), in the Butler window now put all your new shortcuts into a container (“folder”) and drag it to the Desktop. It will create a .butleritems file (actually a simple plist file). Then transfer the butleritems file to your numpadless MacBook Pro (with Butler already running there) and double-click it. It will install automatically. 

4) Now you should be able to use your new shortcuts instead of NumPad. It even works for &lt;em&gt;assigning&lt;/em&gt; new styles shortcuts.

The trick behind it is that Butler stores the hardware Key Code numbers as well, not just the output character of a key. NumPad numbers use Key Codes in the range of 82–89 and 91–92. 

Actually, you can also download my personal &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loukash.com/download/fakenumpad_butleritems_v1_ch.zip&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;butleritems file&lt;/a&gt; to start with, but you may need to remap certain shortcuts to fit your keyboard layout. I use a Swiss German layout, hence shortcuts involving the option key possibly won’t work on the U.S. or any other layout.

Also, certain modifier combinations may interfere with other global shortcuts like cmd-shift-3 for taking screenshot. You may need to remap these in the Keyboard Shortcuts System Preference pane first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a new “old” MacBook Pro (Early 2008 with <em>matte</em> display!), I can confirm that the omission of Num keys on Apple notebooks is highly unfortunate. But it sort of lines up into Apple’s recent “efforts” to drive long time professional users away from portable Macs. Oh well.</p>
<p>But I have found a <b>workaround</b>. However, for initial setup it <em>requires</em> an older Mac <em>with</em> integrated NumPad – or an external keyboard (not tested).</p>
<p>1) Install an application which is able to execute global actions based on your custom keyboard shortcuts. I can highly recommend <a href="http://www.manytricks.com/butler/" rel="nofollow">Butler</a>, which can do that with ease, and <em>much</em> more. (Don’t forget to donate!)</p>
<p>2) In Butler set all of your original InDesign NumPad shortcut variations using a NumPad keyboard and assign to them the new “numpadless” shortcuts you want to use instead. For example: set <i>cmd-num1</i> to be executed by pressing <i>cmd-ctrl-1</i>. (Basically you are simply replacing the fn key with the ctrl key.) Also, it’s more safe to set Butler to execute each shortcut in InDesign <em>only</em>. You should also check that none of these shortcuts are already in use in ID.</p>
<p>3) If you were not performing the previous steps on your numpadless MacBook (with an external keyboard attached), in the Butler window now put all your new shortcuts into a container (“folder”) and drag it to the Desktop. It will create a .butleritems file (actually a simple plist file). Then transfer the butleritems file to your numpadless MacBook Pro (with Butler already running there) and double-click it. It will install automatically. </p>
<p>4) Now you should be able to use your new shortcuts instead of NumPad. It even works for <em>assigning</em> new styles shortcuts.</p>
<p>The trick behind it is that Butler stores the hardware Key Code numbers as well, not just the output character of a key. NumPad numbers use Key Codes in the range of 82–89 and 91–92. </p>
<p>Actually, you can also download my personal <a href="http://www.loukash.com/download/fakenumpad_butleritems_v1_ch.zip" rel="nofollow">butleritems file</a> to start with, but you may need to remap certain shortcuts to fit your keyboard layout. I use a Swiss German layout, hence shortcuts involving the option key possibly won’t work on the U.S. or any other layout.</p>
<p>Also, certain modifier combinations may interfere with other global shortcuts like cmd-shift-3 for taking screenshot. You may need to remap these in the Keyboard Shortcuts System Preference pane first.</p>
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		<title>By: B MUL</title>
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		<dc:creator>B MUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have tried two different keypads with the macbook pro.  The number keys work to type numbers, but do not work for creating shortcut keys in indesign. 

Having worked on a pc for 30 years and this being my first mac... the best macbook pro maxed on memory... frankly I think it totally sucks.  It&#039;s great for surfing the web, but when it comes down to work, the programs freeze more than on a pc.  It&#039;s a very problematic laptop.  Not worth the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have tried two different keypads with the macbook pro.  The number keys work to type numbers, but do not work for creating shortcut keys in indesign. </p>
<p>Having worked on a pc for 30 years and this being my first mac&#8230; the best macbook pro maxed on memory&#8230; frankly I think it totally sucks.  It&#8217;s great for surfing the web, but when it comes down to work, the programs freeze more than on a pc.  It&#8217;s a very problematic laptop.  Not worth the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Xi "CiCi" Yu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xi "CiCi" Yu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandee, ditto on the &quot;didn&#039;t mean to start a war.&quot;  I referenced your post in a Facebook note, and while I was asleep in the wee hours of morning, I received 39 comments between 12 a.m. and 3 a.m.  Bit of a shock when I got up this morning.../CiCi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandee, ditto on the &#8220;didn&#8217;t mean to start a war.&#8221;  I referenced your post in a Facebook note, and while I was asleep in the wee hours of morning, I received 39 comments between 12 a.m. and 3 a.m.  Bit of a shock when I got up this morning&#8230;/CiCi</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Levine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose we can just summarize this by saying that Apple has finally taken the &quot;less is more&quot; concept just a step too far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose we can just summarize this by saying that Apple has finally taken the &#8220;less is more&#8221; concept just a step too far.</p>
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		<title>By: sandee cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandee cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roland,

Steve&#039;s right.

I didn&#039;t post this to start a pissing contest between Mac and PC.

I posted to alert Mac users who understand the use of the fn key that the newer generation of MaBooks have taken away the function.

It is something that Mac users need to consider if they are going to buy a new portable.

And it&#039;s something that should be mentioned to Adobe as a new reason to change the way style shortcuts are assigned.

That was why I posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roland,</p>
<p>Steve&#8217;s right.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t post this to start a pissing contest between Mac and PC.</p>
<p>I posted to alert Mac users who understand the use of the fn key that the newer generation of MaBooks have taken away the function.</p>
<p>It is something that Mac users need to consider if they are going to buy a new portable.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s something that should be mentioned to Adobe as a new reason to change the way style shortcuts are assigned.</p>
<p>That was why I posted.</p>
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