Master Page Items disappearing?!
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September 28, 2016 at 1:42 pm #88704Shane SmithMember
I’m working on a layout that has facing pages and no bleeds. I have 2 master pages, 1 for the body of the book and another for the section starts. When I apply a section start master to any page starting on the right the elements on the left disappear. Does anybody know how to fix this? Some elements on the Section start master pages touch the spine. I feel like this is what’s causing the problem but then how do I go about creating pages? Both masters have left and right pages.
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September 28, 2016 at 2:22 pm #88706David BlatnerKeymaster
It sounds like maybe you’re applying the master page to both pages of the spread instead of just the right-hand page?
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September 28, 2016 at 3:07 pm #88709Dwayne HarrisMember
I’ve seen the same problem (though not too often).
You may want to try is changing your bleed settings. I’m in book publishing, and I set it up so the bleeds are top, bottom, and outside. I have zero for inside. I don’t know what the printer folks like, but it doesn’t matter. We use their PDF settings and it automatically adds the bleed for all (top, bottom, inside, and outside). That usually fixes it.
I think InDesign overrides the right-hand master page art box because of the left-hand side inside bleed (which has nothing on it).
But if that doesn’t work–I have resorted to making my master page spread “unorthodox.”
By that I mean, I will make a CL (chapter opener left page). The left-hand page of the master is the opener with the art, and the right is a regular text page.
Then I will do the same with CR (chapter opener right page). The right-hand page of the master is the opener with the art and the left is a regular text page.
Then I apply the master page spread to the actual page spread. That also works.
It seems that doing it the normal way (as you definitely are), that Indesign ignores the picture box on the right because it’s touching the text master page. And the left-hand page has an inside bleed.
I don’t think you are applying the master to both spreads as you say it only happens on on right-hand side pages, but double-check as David suggests.
As an aside—are you applying the right-hand side master page by dragging down a master page on top of the required page, or option + clicking?
InDesign can definitely do weird things at times.
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September 28, 2016 at 2:48 pm #88707Shane SmithMember
Nope, only applying it to the one page. If I can’t figure it out I will have to make an additional master page with a section header on 1 page and a normal page on the other.
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September 28, 2016 at 3:08 pm #88710Dwayne HarrisMember
Seems I was composing a post when you were posting, Shane.
Hopefully you will see it.
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September 29, 2016 at 5:18 am #88718Shane SmithMember
I’m doing everything your suggesting but it’s still doesn’t help. I will have to make the extra master page… I wonder what would happen if I told the master page to be single pages, one for right, one for left?
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July 5, 2017 at 1:02 am #95878Alistair DabbsMember
Apologies for arriving late to this party, Shane, but what you were experiencing is a lingering InDesign bug. It happens only occasionally so I’ve never been able to determine the cause other than it is related to child Masters (i.e. using the Based On feature) where objects in the parent Master bleed off the left trim on the left-hand page. In your case, the spine-touching instance might be triggering the same.
I have fixed it in the past by doing the following (a ‘turn it off and back on again’ method):
– open Master Options for the child Master, change its Based On setting from its parent Master to None, click OK.
– re-open Master Options for the child Master, change its Based On setting from None back to the parent Master, click OK.
– That’s it.Sorry if this is not relevant to your case. Good luck.
Alistair
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