Comments on: Transparency in Bitmap Images in InDesign http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php InDesignSecrets Blog and Podcast Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:18:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Gaston http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-469069 Gaston Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:57:09 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-469069 Thanks for your answer David. I saved an image as a TIF, 42 MB, but when I saved the same image as a JPG, it was only 1.9 MB. To me, huge files and space it's very important, but I'll take it in consideration Thanks for your answer David. I saved an image as a TIF, 42 MB, but when I saved the same image as a JPG, it was only 1.9 MB. To me, huge files and space it’s very important, but I’ll take it in consideration

]]> By: David Blatner http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-469067 David Blatner Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:42:34 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-469067 @Gaston: TIFF can handle transparency, layers, and all kinds of things that JPEG cannot. JPEG is lossy (the more you compress, the more it degrades the image) while TIFF is lossless. I would say that JPEG is fine for many people. @Gaston: TIFF can handle transparency, layers, and all kinds of things that JPEG cannot. JPEG is lossy (the more you compress, the more it degrades the image) while TIFF is lossless. I would say that JPEG is fine for many people.

]]> By: Gaston http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-469066 Gaston Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:41:03 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-469066 (Adobe InDesign) Why should I save images as a TIFF when saving them as a JPG it's 1/4 the size? (Adobe InDesign) Why should I save images as a TIFF when saving them as a JPG it’s 1/4 the size?

]]> By: beeveedee http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-465305 beeveedee Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:23:56 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-465305 To correct something that was said earlier here... You have been able to use bitmap tiffs in Quark for many, many versions, going back to at least v3. Transparent bitmap tiffs are very handy, and there are certain situations where they are better to use than a grayscale tiff. To correct something that was said earlier here… You have been able to use bitmap tiffs in Quark for many, many versions, going back to at least v3. Transparent bitmap tiffs are very handy, and there are certain situations where they are better to use than a grayscale tiff.

]]> By: David Blatner http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-435826 David Blatner Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:48:41 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-435826 Sara, you bring up a good point: I wish there were a way to export PSD files. Unfortunately, you cannot. But you can export a JPEG file; or a PDF file and then rasterize that in Photoshop. (But you lose all your layers.) You can also export to PDF, then open in Illustrator and export to PSD from there. Sara, you bring up a good point: I wish there were a way to export PSD files. Unfortunately, you cannot. But you can export a JPEG file; or a PDF file and then rasterize that in Photoshop. (But you lose all your layers.) You can also export to PDF, then open in Illustrator and export to PSD from there.

]]> By: sara http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-435159 sara Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:54:28 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-435159 HOw can I save a PSD file in INDESIGN CS3? thanks HOw can I save a PSD file in INDESIGN CS3?

thanks

]]> By: Bart Van de Wiele http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-249810 Bart Van de Wiele Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:46:08 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-249810 Please keep using Tif files ! ;) The difference in files size is huge when working with large(r) files. I agree that having a layered PSD and the same file as a flattened Tif also takes up a lot of diskspace. But the processing speed of Indesign will greatly improve. The test: My layered PSD file takes up about 335 Mb (so, a large file). I don't feel like placing this sucker in Indesign :) When I save it as a LZW (losless) Tiff it takes up 4Mb ! Owkay, I agree that the layers are the cause for the big file. But even when I flatten my file the psd is larger (4,5Mb). Please keep using Tif files ! ;) The difference in files size is huge when working with large(r) files. I agree that having a layered PSD and the same file as a flattened Tif also takes up a lot of diskspace. But the processing speed of Indesign will greatly improve.

The test:
My layered PSD file takes up about 335 Mb (so, a large file). I don’t feel like placing this sucker in Indesign :)
When I save it as a LZW (losless) Tiff it takes up 4Mb !

Owkay, I agree that the layers are the cause for the big file. But even when I flatten my file the psd is larger (4,5Mb).

]]> By: Matt tucker http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-246998 Matt tucker Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:37:10 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-246998 The reason why people should consider using TIFF files is the ability to use compression. If you use ZIP compression on a TIFF, which is lossless, the file will be about 1/4 the size as PSD. Go ahead and try it. This is a big deal when your dealing with dozens ( or hundreds) of images. You will notice the size difference more on color images than bitmapped or grayscal. The reason why people should consider using TIFF files is the ability to use compression. If you use ZIP compression on a TIFF, which is lossless, the file will be about 1/4 the size as PSD. Go ahead and try it. This is a big deal when your dealing with dozens ( or hundreds) of images. You will notice the size difference more on color images than bitmapped or grayscal.

]]> By: Chris M. http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-246829 Chris M. Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:16:39 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-246829 I work for a small publisher that localizes Japanese comics, which are 99% black and white, so I see bitmap images a lot. Even though I knew all the information that was presented this was a very nice article to read, as it covers a lot of areas that I only found out through a lot of experience. I still output as TIFF, even though my whole environment is Adobe based. It's partly because of tradition (we've been doing this since Quark 5, and switched to Indesign at Version 2), and partly because not everyone here has Photoshop installed so it's easy to preview the image on any computer if I have to. Sometimes we get bitmap images as high as 2400 ppi! The screentones that get used in the artwork is so detailed sometimes that it can be easily mistaken for something outputted as grayscale. It's pretty amazing what you can do with one color if you have enough dot coverage to work with. I work for a small publisher that localizes Japanese comics, which are 99% black and white, so I see bitmap images a lot. Even though I knew all the information that was presented this was a very nice article to read, as it covers a lot of areas that I only found out through a lot of experience. I still output as TIFF, even though my whole environment is Adobe based. It’s partly because of tradition (we’ve been doing this since Quark 5, and switched to Indesign at Version 2), and partly because not everyone here has Photoshop installed so it’s easy to preview the image on any computer if I have to.

Sometimes we get bitmap images as high as 2400 ppi! The screentones that get used in the artwork is so detailed sometimes that it can be easily mistaken for something outputted as grayscale. It’s pretty amazing what you can do with one color if you have enough dot coverage to work with.

]]> By: Jennie http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-246827 Jennie Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:15:47 +0000 http://indesignsecrets.com/transparency-in-bitmap-images-in-indesign.php#comment-246827 I understand saving and using PSD files. That is on my list of favorite ID features (a very long list). The folks who create/supply most of the graphics and photos for me have been saving files as jpg (lossy) and sending those to me until my message finally got through recently to save them as tiffs (lossless). These files may need to be used by a lot of people with odd and assorted software and software versions for multiple purposes. I am often a version ahead of the graphics guys with Adobe products. So, is there a "best" format when graphics and pics may need to be used in microsoft documents (ick!!!), on the web, in ID, or anything and everything else that someone has come across, as well as both Mac and PC platforms (notice which of those I listed first)? I understand saving and using PSD files. That is on my list of favorite ID features (a very long list).
The folks who create/supply most of the graphics and photos for me have been saving files as jpg (lossy) and sending those to me until my message finally got through recently to save them as tiffs (lossless).
These files may need to be used by a lot of people with odd and assorted software and software versions for multiple purposes.
I am often a version ahead of the graphics guys with Adobe products.
So, is there a “best” format when graphics and pics may need to be used in microsoft documents (ick!!!), on the web, in ID, or anything and everything else that someone has come across, as well as both Mac and PC platforms (notice which of those I listed first)?

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