InDesignSecrets Podcast 205

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In this episode:

  • News: InDesign Conference; PePcon; Lynda Weinman creative keynote!
  • Neglected Panels (some you may not even know about)
    • Worth a(nother) look: Info, Tool Hints, Kuler, Background Tasks, Story, Attributes
    • Forgettable for most users: Trap Presets, Timing (until HTML 5 export!), Script Label, Tags, Transform (redundant!), Flattener Preview
    • Wait-and-see: Adobe Exchange
  • Obscure InDesign Feature of the Week: Consolidate All to Here

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10 Comments on “InDesignSecrets Podcast 205

  1. Talking about non-printing things and the layers panel: if you double-click on a layer’s name, you get Layer Options, and one of those is “Print Layer” — so you can setup a “Notes” layer, set it non-printing, and put all your little notes to your author/editor on it.

    Just make sure you setup a PDF preset for proofing that includes that layer (Include: Non-Printing Objects), and that your presets for distributing that PDF do not include that layer. I delete notes out of that layer as I go, and late in the production of a file, hide every layer _but_ that one temporarily to make sure I’ve dealt with all the notes. Then I delete the layer before going to press/for-sale-PDF.

  2. I also use non-printing layers for things like die strikes (in CS5) and find them very helpful.

    I noticed something else in the podcast…The “Background Tasks” panel was introduced in CS5. I remember because when I made the jump to CS5 and watched a “What’s New in CS5″ tutorial, I got all excited about that new feature. I no longer had to sit there and wait for InDesign to churn through my long document to make a PDF.

    That being said, I found your topic on little-used panels very enlightening, especially the info panel. I use it all the time to determine actual PPI once I place photos in my layout. That way it’s easy to “edit original” and resize them in PS to match the final size. But what I didn’t know about the info panel was when you’re in the type tool it will give you character count AND word count! How could I have missed that all these years? I lay out a community newspaper and sometimes I need a story from my editor to fill extra space. How cool will it be that when I fill that area with placeholder text, I can give her a word count? Thanks for another nugget of awesomeness!

    • Aleta, one more little thing about the Info panel: if you look at the word count on a panel that has overset text, it will tell you exactly how many characters/words are currently overset! Super handy for deciding if you’re going to do a little bit of tracking, a quick word cut, or if text actually needs an edit/rewrite.

  3. Cool tip, Adam! I normally get overset character counts from the pre-flight panel, but it doesn’t show word count, which is what my editor prefers. So, again, I will be paying more attention to that Info panel. Thanks!

  4. To find the more secret than it should be Adobe Exchange panel in InDesign go to Window>Extensions>Adobe Exchange. The panel is also available for download for InDesign CS6, it’s built into InDesign CC. As David kindly mentioned we ave some big things planned for 2014. We love being part of InDesign and hope all InDesign users check it out and give us your feedback.


  5. Great podcast. Two comments.

    First, while the transform panel doesn’t show anything that isn’t in the Control Panel, it does allow you to be working inside a text frame, with the formatting options visible, and at the same time apply transformations to the frame holding the type.

    This same thing goes for the reverse. With a text frame selected as an object, keeping the paragraph and character (or styles) panels visible, you can modify type formatting without changing from the Selection tool.

    Second, there have been some changes in the need for the Script Label panel. I don’t pretend to understand a single thing he said the thread, but Ole Kvern posted an explanation a while ago:

    Bottom line: Items are now named in Layers panel for scripts.

  6. Hooray! The InDesign Conference is where I met you both many years ago… along with Sandee Cohen. I am looking forward to future conferences.

    Best wishes in your new ventures.

    Andrea Stork

    Ps. I love the clean interface of the InDesign Secrets website.

  7. Thanks for the shout out! The reason I knew where Consolidate All to Here was is that despite what AMC says about it being old-fashioned, I actually use floating windows frequently. I do use tabbed windows more often, but I have 2 large monitors and often need to have 2 Indesign documents viewable side by side, or 2 windows into the same document.

    It’s a lot easier if you can see them both side by side & drag stuff from one to the other rather than with tabs where you can only see one at a time; and with tabs both windows are the same size. If you have a large text box on the pasteboard (or in a separate doc) and you’re cutting from it to put on pages, you can have one small window of just that and another of the document with a larger window.

    But I must admit that prior to suggesting the obscure feature, I had never actually used Consolidate All to Here. As you guessed, I just saw it there when I right-clicked.

  8. “Special offer just for InDesignSecrets listeners, through January 2014, get 25% discount off PDF2ID v3.5 or ID2Office v1.5 with code ID_Secrets”

    What a shame the discount doesn’t work on the new v4. That’s the one I need for Indesign CC.

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