Comments on: What If InCopy Went Away?

By: john Mccoy

john Mccoy — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:07:47 +0000

I want buzz copy right now. If i had buzz copy. I would be able to take next week end off

By: Haeme Ulrich

Haeme Ulrich — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:44:20 +0000

David, great blog, I love these kind of reflections!

We at ulrich-media have good connections to censhare. It’s interesting that censhare is on the way to your scenario: they do already edit IDML. Today instead of AIR they are working with Java. But they know the advantages of AIR.

Greetings from our InDesign-Freak-Days at Berlin (Germany). This afternoon we are talking about IDML, ID-Server, AIR-Integration…
Haeme

By: Mike Rankin

Mike Rankin — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:16:39 +0000

This is tres cool.

I’ve been babbling about something like BuzzCopy or InBuzz, to anyone who’d listen for a year and a half now, and pretty much begged Adobe guys for it at last year’s Max conference.

It just makes too much sense. And it could be amazingly powerful, if done right. With a Flex frontend using this Text Layout Framework, you could (I think–we’re still talking vaporware here) really build a web version of InCopy with whatever tools, fonts, styles, you wanted.

The slick trick will be hooking it up to a database of content and then pushing that into a template or IDML on ID server to make your PDFs etc. I talked a bit about at the conference in my INX-IDML session.

Here’s one example that’s not vaporware (I think it’s what you’re referrring to, Fritz):
http://branddoozie.com/demos_tutorials/doozie_demo.php

It’s a Flex frontend for creating your own branded materials. Basically InDesign Lite, in browser. I think the future of InDesign is going to be weird, wild, and wonderful. ID is going to be shattered into many different things. It’ll become a development platform instead of a desktop app.

Here’s a link to my rant on Publicious on this topic:
http://publicious.net/2008/10/15/you-heard-it-here-first/

By: Harry Brindley

Harry Brindley — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:15:32 +0000

David. I’ve shared a somewhat similar wish with Adobe — to virtualise both InCopy and then a basic version of InDesign and also to provide the storage behind both. Once uploaded, or created online, documents won’t have to copied down when checked out. It would be like serving up InCopy and InDesign via a terminal server — you see only the screen presentations. This makes for a virtual publishing system. It makes sense that new publications might not want to invest in infrastructure, hardware and software when it could be buy this as a service and focus, instead, on content creation and marketing. Such a strategy will help Adobe profit from a print market in decline while that market transitions itself to the web. With a bit of tweaking that same virtual publishing system becomes an online content management system for web publishing. Harry

By: Petteri Paananen

Petteri Paananen — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:03:30 +0000

Very interesting new Flex/Flash-based client-side-stuff is coming to make working with InDesign Server easier…. I havent seen anything published yet so I guess I can´t say more… be patient….=)

By: David Blatner

David Blatner — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:58:32 +0000

Lynn, no unfortunately I didn’t get to MAX. Oh well. Maybe next year!

By: Lynn Grillo

Lynn Grillo — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:26:23 +0000

David, were you at MAX? And I never even saw you? Pfff.

By: Fritz

Fritz — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:52:11 +0000

Actually, there are already a few online solutions with InDesign already that use InDesign Server. One is called K4 by Vjoon “formerly Softcare”. With K4 users can check out and edit files via a web browser.
The others are self built systems that use a custom flex interface that allows users input their own information into predefined templates that are processed behind the scenes and sent directly to print. Chris Kitchener and Olav Martin Kvern showcased a few different case studies at the master class on InDesign Server.
And finally dare it say it, Quarks QPS now even allows InDesign to work with its system that also allows users to use a web browser to checkout and edit stories just like K4 and InCopy.

By: Bob Levine

Bob Levine — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:16:14 +0000

I’m with Sandee on this…until the whole world is connected to the web with ultra high speed connections that are 100% secure, Incopy is quite safe, IMO.

By: David Blatner

David Blatner — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:39:19 +0000

Aw, dang… I was really hoping for some drama here from Anne-Marie. I’ll have to try harder next time.

Sandee: AIR apps can function away from the Web. Many companies are already trusting their documents to The Cloud. It’s all password protected, anyway.

I think what was exciting about this for me is that it shows that Flash is really now an Adobe technology, and that the team is serious about making it world class and applicable for both Web and print workflows. I have no doubt that they will make Kuler handle CMYK better (color managed, etc). CS4 is a bit of a clunky beginning, but I think we’ll start seeing exciting the CS5 and CS6 timeframes.