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Give a Little Air to the Editors

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Here’s an interesting tip I thought some of you could use. A few clients of mine have their designers routinely extend text frame depth into white space below (below the point where they actually prefer the text to end), sometimes into the pasteboard. Then they use ruler guides to show the editors where the text should optimally end.

So, instead of handing the editors a text frame like this one (text frame is green, margin is magenta, bottom trim edge is the heavy black rule):

They make the text frame extra deep, like so:

The advantage is that it gives the editors some leeway on how far down the copy is allowed to appear without having to bug the designers all the time to adjust the frames “just one more line deep.”

In the example above, the ideal situation (to the layout designer) is that the last line of text aligns with the bottom of the picture to the right—and they’re communicating that to InCopy users by placing the light blue guideline there (one of my clients uses specially-colored orange guidelines for this purpose). But, there’s nothing really objectionable to anyone if the editor needs to include two or three more lines of text, since it would still end above the margin.

Notice that in this case—the second screen shot above—the designer was extra-generous and extended the text frame a couple lines below the bottom margin. That’s because his editors prefer to edit overset text in Layout view when possible. They can plonk in all the text they want, format it and see how it looks in Layout view, then copyfit visually to the blue ruler guide or to the magenta margin guide.

The disadvantage to this technique is that writers can’t rely on the Copyfit Progress toolbar for these extra-deep frames. (That’s the toolbar that says how many lines you’re over or under for the active story.) Since CP’s reporting relies on the height of the text frame, it would always report that you’re “Under 4 lines” or whatever, even if the copy is right at the bottom margin.

Nonetheless you might consider such a solution, even on a case-by-case basis, if the issue of “just one more line deep, please” crops up a lot in your workflow.

Anne-Marie “Her Geekness” Concepción is the co-founder (with David Blatner) and CEO of Creative Publishing Network, which produces InDesignSecrets, InDesign Magazine, and other resources for creative professionals. Through her cross-media design studio, Seneca Design & Training, Anne-Marie develops ebooks and trains and consults with companies who want to master the tools and workflows of digital publishing. She has authored over 20 courses on lynda.com on these topics and others. Keep up with Anne-Marie by subscribing to her ezine, HerGeekness Gazette, and contact her by email at [email protected] or on Twitter @amarie
  • Brett Kizner says:

    Leaving a little extra room in the frame is a tip we regularly give to designers when teaching them to use InDesign with their editorial workflow systems. You’re spot on that it makes it much easier to leave the box open to accommodate more text where possible. Near the end of the workflow, many of our clients choose to close up the box so that the InDesign layout is as clean as possible. Of course, with some designs for books, leaving extra space is not possible due to design constraints.

    Regarding leaving extra room so editors can edit their overset in Layout view, this would be a perfect use of Vjoon’s Overset Manager as it will show the overset in the context of the layout, but not impact the Copyfit Progress toolbar.

  • mat Gilbert says:

    help!!!
    Is there any way to have incopy use a low res image when importing assignments. I am finding InCopy very slow when opening up assignments and it seems to be because of images. I must be able to see the images, proxy will not do!

  • Anne-Marie says:

    Slow generation of images when you open the assignment almost always means you’re on a slow network. The assignment generates the previews from the originals on the server every time you open it. You need gigabit speed through and through.

    But if the originals aren’t available then it’ll use the low-res previews stored within the assignment (new in CS3/CS4 I think). You’ll get a bunch of “missing link” alerts but you could ignore them.

    So you could temporarily hide the originals (zip the folder containing them for example) before opening the assignment.

    Or, have the designer package the assignment (from the Assignment panel menu … Package for InCopy) and send that to you via email or you download it from the server to your desktop. Assignment packages include the low-res image previews and you don’t need to work off the server.

  • mat Gilbert says:

    Thanks. Most of the above mentioned items have been either tried or ruled out. I cannot package because that would pull it off the server and many dept are working on the same assignment. I cannot break the links due to reflow and constant tweaking by the art dept. Editorial needs consistent and accurate layouts.
    I was wondering if there is any kind of setting to adjust what is sent as an image, but from what you have stated to me and Alison Cattleona, InCopy/InDesign is not built that way…pity.
    As for the computer or network speed. This situation has be explored and in most cases ruled out.

  • mat Gilbert says:

    Here’s another one…
    Master page items that have text wrap applied still show up on incopy assignment even though the item has been deleted from the layout. It creates a phantom text wrap even though it is not applied to anything but the original Master Page…
    Curious and furious…

  • Anne-Marie says:

    Matt, you’re kind of veering way off the topic of this post. ;-)

    Probably better to email me directly, or post these issues to the Adobe InCopy forum.

    I’ll create a new post later this week all about dealing with speed issues, and move your comments over there, where they’ll be more relevant. Sound good?

    But if you had any thoughts about “leaving air for editors”, feel free to comment here.

  • mat Gilbert says:

    sorry bout that! and thanks again!

  • Nat Belz says:

    Our [remote] editors endure LONG opening times with InCopy CS4. Our [also remote] designers want to show them low-res images but must be missing the boat with how they create the .icap files (pkg files)… Any speed solutions?

    Thanks.

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