Cover spreads et al
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Recently discovered this site. I looked at the free templates and wondered:
1. Why the book spread was not in facing pages.
2. The catalog was in facing pages but the covers were first and last pages. I designed a cover after doc completed with spread images and needed to do not shuffle pages, copied elements in place for both sides etc. Then printer requested to reshuffle pages so cover was first and last again. Is this the best workflow? Or work in another file and move pages?
3. In a Blatner movie, he had a tri-fold made of three separate pages for the various panels. What advantage was this?
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I haven’t looked at the templates, but I’m going to try to guess the answers.
1. It’s probably a template for a digital book in which facing pages does not make sense.
2. Do not totally understand your question.
3. Do you have a better way to do it? What if you decide that the center panel has to be an inch wider?…
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Thank you for replying.
2. In pages palette, the catalog template is set to facing pages with cover one on page one and back cover on final page. (I normally do covers in Illustrator but a printer asked for the catalog cover in the same InDesign file.) When images or objects need to spread over the entire cover, I set pages to do-not-shuffle pages and added a page for the back cover next to page “i.” I copied in place the spread objects and placed each on the respective front and back covers with frames reduced to the bleed lines. Then I had to turn off do-not-shuffle pages so the back cover page went to the end of the file.
3. I have always done a tri-fold on one page with guides and columns adjusted for the short fold panel (reverse for the outside and inside). I just never thought about using separate pages. I would use the same process for moving guides to adjust for a larger panel width but you might have a point about how easy it is to change page size. Is this your standard procedure?
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2. I believe this is the best workflow. Why go through the hassle of moving pages, turning on the ‘do not shuffle’ option, and inviting mistakes when you can leave everything as is and the printer does the work for you.
3. You can make a tri-fold with guides and columns but since InDesign added support for multi-sized pages it’s a shame not to use it. As I said, what if you decide that the center-panel has to be an inch wider, but the right or left panel should stay the same as before. That would be a lot of work with guides. But with multi-sized pages it’s a breeze. I don’t create so much tri-folds so I don’t have a ‘standard procedure’.
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2. Agree with Ari – to avoid any confusion, always build your book file in order, from front cover to back. Printers set up imposition based on that order.
3. For an 11×8.5 tri fold brochure, the panel sizes are typically like this:
Outside: left to right: 3.625, 3.6875, 3.6875 (front panel)
Inside: left to right: 3.6875, 3.6875 (inside center panel), 3.625I set up my own trifold template, which is great for setting up from scratch, especially with my Align to Page keyboard shortcuts. It’s also the best way to take a customer’s PDF and adjust to the correct panel sizes.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yqze76c92tf0i3h/tri-fold%20brochure.indt?dl=0
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Thanks!
2. I did set up pages in order but my question was how to work with designing a cover SPREAD in InDesign to cross both pages when you have the imposition of the covers at opposite ends of the document. I’m used to Illustrator where it is one spread.
3. I have successfully done many tri-fold brochures where I set up guides in InDesign. My surprise was using separate pages for the panels. I had just never considered it. -
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Ari, but when you do that, page 8 will still come out as the first page of a PDF. You’d have to move it to the last page there.
Ann, you can build the cover separately, (with facing pages for example), export to PDF, combine with insides PDF, or place in InDesign file, or send to printer as Cover and Insides.
This is assuming it will be a booklet (saddle stitch). If it’s a perfect bound book, you would need to create the cover to a larger size to add the spine. But perhaps I’ve said too much!
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