Crop image data to frames sometimes isn't, and it gets stranger…
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OK, this one's freaking me out a bit. A book that's going to press tomorrow has over 300 photos in it. All are the same size, file format, resolution, color space, creator, etc. I can't find any difference in them other than what they're photos of. All are in identical frames, which are always in the same places on the page. All use the exact same object style to apply the stroke.
A few, when exported to PDF with 'crop image data to frames' checked in the dialog, and no compression at all, have a bit hanging out the right side of their frame. That is, the .5 pt black stroke is there, all around the photo, but on the right side there is about 1 pt of colored noise OUTSIDE the stroke. It's not the actual photo data from what's outside the frame (and there is a little bit of it cropped by the frame on every photo, not just the ones doing this), but appears to be smeared pixels from the edge of the photo that's just inside the stroke.
Magnified to any level it's not that way in ID. (This is in CS3 ME on a PC running XP.) (Nice start to a nursery rhyme.)
It IS there when the PDF is printed onto actual paper, which is why it's freaking me out (did I mention that it's to go to press tomorrow?). Printing from ID is, of course, perfect.
That's weird enough.
Perhaps even stranger is that if I uncheck 'crop image data to frames' in the export dialog but leave everything else the same, the problem goes away (at least for the ones I've been experimenting with). Compression or no compression has no effect.
So: Anyone ever seen this happen? I've found a few posts on the web, but none with solutions that apply to what I've got going on.
I'm going to keep digging into the images' backgrounds and meta-whatever, seeing if I can spot a unifying theme.
Thanks.
Olaf
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A couple new facts.
First, it IS actually photo showing that should be hidden. Just happens that the one I took the screenshot of was created with a smeared edge somehow. (I didn't make the photos, so I don't know how.)
Second, if I click on the photo with the direct selection tool, then hit the left arrow key once to nudge it slightly to the left, then export it, the problem is gone. There's still hidden photo outside the frame, but it no longer shows up. Can't make the problem happen to other photos by nudging them in any direction, though.
Without the nudge to the left I can still make it go away by unchecking the 'crop image data' box.
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I haven't seen this problem, but I have seen one that looks a little like the same thing (very slightly misaligned stroke). I was trying to mimic a Light weight in a font that didn't have one by adding a Paper-coloured stroke around the outside, with the Stroke Alignment set to Center. In the PDF, and when printed out on the office printer, the stroke didn't align properly with the character, so we ended up with what looked like a thin white letter sitting on top, and slightly to the side, of the black one. As with your problem, it looked completely fine in InDesign.
(In that case I found another font, which did have a Light weight, and looked sufficiently similar in the characters I was using. So I don't know whether the misalignment would actually have shown up on the press or not.)
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Wonder why photobucket blocked the picture. That's odd.
David: Yes, printing from Acrobat Pro. Didn't try printing from ID since my focus was on getting a PDF that the printer could use to produce the book. Mine is not a true postscript printer, but I don't think that matters in this case, since the problem is there in the pdf when viewed in Acrobat Pro.
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I had a similar issue, where a photo was creeping past the right edge of its frame in the exported PDF. For me, it only happened when all of these factors were combined:
1. The edge of the photo had zero (or close to zero) X offset (i.e. the left edge of photo and frame were aligned)
2. The exported PDF included crop and print marks
3. 'Crop Image Data to Frames' was checked.
I only figured out the last one after stumbling onto this thread via a Goodle search. Unchecking 'Crop Image Data to Frames' was the simplest solution.
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