Spellcheck wants to capitalise letters that follow quotes with question mark
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July 28, 2015 at 10:55 pm #76984Lenin DMember
(Indesign CS6. Hunspell dictionary ON.)
Whenever I do a spellcheck, I spend tremendous time skipping errors for lower case letters that follow a quote just because the quote ends in a question mark or exclamation mark.
Eg., “Would you like that?” she said.
“You would like that!” she said.The spellcheck thinks that “s” in “she” needs to be capital, though that would be grammatically wrong.
Eg., “You would like that,” she said.
The spellcheck here has no problem with the “s”.
Please help.
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July 29, 2015 at 8:09 am #77006David BlatnerKeymaster
Interesting problem! I can’t think of any way of altering that behavior in InDesign itself. I wonder if Mindsteam’s spell or grammar checker would be better? https://www.mindsteam.com/products/mindgrammar/index.html
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July 29, 2015 at 12:44 pm #77013Lenin DMember
Thanks, David. So is that a common problem with ID?
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July 29, 2015 at 12:56 pm #77016David BlatnerKeymaster
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone complain about it before. So not very common. I usually encourage people to do this kind of work in Word and then place the file as clean as possible into ID.
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July 29, 2015 at 9:34 pm #77028Lenin DMember
OK. A while back I had downloaded Hunspell dictionaries from Mozilla, since CS5 didn’t work by default with Hunspell.
I wonder if those old files needed erasing or something when moving onto CS6. If yes, I would appreciate some directions in getting ID CS6’s Hunspell features to work in a perfect default manner.
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July 30, 2015 at 4:02 am #77033Dwayne HarrisMember
The problem is the spelling preferences. Go to your regular preferences and select “spelling.”
I’m betting all four boxes are checked. Uncheck the one that says to look for uncapitalized sentences. These preference settings control spell check.
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July 30, 2015 at 8:28 am #77046Eugene TysonMember
It’s been a huge pain in the backside for a while, to be honest, I’ve always had this issue.
It’s simply because “That’s what she said,” she said, the comma is not a marker for the end of a sentence.
And “That’s what she said!” she said, where the exclamation point would mark the end of a sentence.
InDesign looks for end of sentence punctuation and then flags the text after it as not being the right case, as uppercase is usual rule here.
However, it never takes into account things like “That’s what she said, etc., by the way” where “by” would be flagged for capitalisation.
In short, InDesign hasn’t got the brains behind the beauty to recognise grammar. Where Word does to an extent, it’s usually wrong, but that’s neither here nor there.
Best thing to do for a spell check is to go to Preferences and turn off the option to check for capitalisations.
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July 30, 2015 at 9:11 am #77056Dwayne HarrisMember
“In short, InDesign hasn’t got the brains behind the beauty to recognise grammar. Where Word does to an extent, it’s usually wrong, but that’s neither here nor there.”
Well–I think that is either here or there. Word does it wrong as well.
ID is not a word processing program, but one of layout. I don’t know if it could be programmed to recognize all the variables of grammar.
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July 30, 2015 at 8:45 am #77049David BlatnerKeymaster
Or just rewrite all the text to say:
She said, pouting, “Would you like that?”
or just
She glared at him. “Would you like that?”
(some writers would say if you need to specify who is talking with a pronoun then something is wrong.)(I’m half kidding.)
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July 30, 2015 at 9:59 pm #77067Lenin DMember
Thanks for all your suggestions. I will simply go with the solution of turning off the check for capitalisation in Indesign.
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December 12, 2015 at 6:09 pm #80146Duncan McKenzieMember
Yes, this is definitely a failing in the capitalization rules. A sentence like:
“Get out of here!” he shouted.
will be flagged as an error because the “he” is lowercase, which it indisputably should be. It’s too bad, because it is a useful thing to be able to check for bad capitalization. I don’t want to turn off this check, because the program did pick up one error using this rule where I had typed a lowercase L at the beginning of a sentence instead of the word “I”, but most of what it flags is correctly formatted quotes.
A similar situation applies to double words. It doesn’t surprise me when it highlights “had had” (“He had had measles as a child”) or “that that” (“I knew that that was an error”). But it also flags double words separated by punctuation, which is rarely a mistake. (Eg, it flagged the word “it” in “I cannot describe it – it was as if someone had spun me around”)
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