InDesignSecrets Podcast 142

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  • Macworld 2011: Even stuff Windows users would be interested in!
  • Interview with Paul Chada from Recosoft
  • A great table tip from Diane Burns of Transpacific Digital
  • Winner of last episode’s Quizzler: How many places does Load show up in InDesign?
  • Obscure InDesign Feature of the Week: Search in Spotlight

16 Comments on “InDesignSecrets Podcast 142

  1. Oops. I forgot to include the winning list of Quizzler answers… here you go: 31 places you can find Load in InDesign:

    File -> Adobe PDF Presets -> Define -> Load…
    File -> Document Presets -> Define -> Load…
    File -> Print Presets -> Define -> Load…
    Edit -> Transparency Flattener Presets -> Define -> Load…
    Edit -> Color Settings -> Load…
    Layout -> Table of Contents Styles -> Load…
    Type -> Text Variables -> Define -> Load…
    Type -> Bullet & Numbered Lists -> Define Lists -> Load…
    Swatches -> Load Swatches…
    Animation -> Manage Presets -> Load…
    Hyperlinks -> Load Cross-References Formats…
    Preflight -> Define Profiles -> Load Profile… (little dropdown menu icon third from left)
    Trap Presets -> Load Trap Presets…
    Pages -> Load Master Pages…
    Stroke -> Stroke Styles -> Load…
    Cell Styles -> Load Cell Styles…
    Cell Styles -> Load Table and Cell Styles…
    Table Styles -> Load Table Styles…
    Table Styles -> Load Table and Cell Styles… (same as in Cell Styles)
    Character Styles -> Load Character Styles…
    Character Styles -> Load All Text Styles…
    Paragraph Styles -> Load Paragraph Styles…
    Paragraph Styles -> Load All Text Styles… (same as in Character Styles)
    Object Styles -> Load Object Styles…
    Conditional Text -> Load Conditions…
    Conditional Text -> Load Conditions and Sets…
    Paragraph -> Define Lists -> Load… (same as from menu)
    Tags -> Load Tags…
    Tags -> Load DTD…
    Tags -> Map Tags to Styles -> Load…
    Tags -> Map Styles to Tags -> Load…

  2. Ah! Missed this quizzler.

    The Keyboard Shortcuts shows quite a few more:

    Four in Text and Tables:
    Load Cross-References Formats?
    Load Find with selected text
    Load Find and Find Next instance
    Load Replace with selected text

    Workspaces has quite a lot:
    Workspace: Load 1st Default Workspace
    Workspace: Load 1st User Workspace
    Workspace: Load 2nd Default Workspace
    Workspace: Load 2nd User Workspace
    Workspace: Load 3rd Default Workspace
    Workspace: Load 3rd User Workspace

    Workspace: Load 9th Default Workspace
    Workspace: Load 9th User Workspace

  3. Right, but those, too, to do not load settings files from disk. It’s a different use of the word “Load.” Loading a workspace means “use this workspace”; loading a a glyph means “put this glyph in the dialog box.

    @Marijan: That is amazing that there is no equivalent “search in explorer.” I should have cranked up the ol’ Windows version to test it. Oh well. Maybe they’ll add it in CS6! :)

  4. 31?

    That?s funny, because I know I submitted a 45-item list. All Load from disk dialogues, although at least one is for a directory, not a file.

  5. @Scott: Yes, there were several people who had lists with more than 31, but after painstaking review (including great amounts of grumbling about if only Anne-Marie were here…!) the numbers were smaller. As I note in the podcast (did you get a chance to listen yet?), features such as Relink, Open, Place, Import XML, Import Media didn’t count. Nor did the Go to Destination options in the Buttons panel, Opening Packages, and other things (yes, people got creative with this!)

    That said, you and a couple of others earned honorable mentions for the extraordinary work you put into this!

  6. Annoyed grunt! OK, now I?ve heard the podcast. Although I think the rules were ambiguous. The final challenge was phrased as, ?How many places is there a ?Load? button? or a ?Load? menu item.?

    Now onto the OFOTWEEEE: I can think of a few uses for that feature. When I work for large agencies most jobs have a slug that identifies the docket number, client, original designer, output requirements, and other data. This would be a quick way to find files or folders that match the docket number or the client name. Since the slug shows up in PDF proofs and archives I can also search for jobs that use the same PANTONE inks or that have the same designer. I?ll remember this one.

  7. @Marijan Tompa:

    “Search in Spotlight” is present in CS3 (no keyboard shortcut defined by default). I suppose it depends on when spotlight was introduced in OSX. Odd that there would be no equivalent on Windows.

  8. @David: I found the Search in Spotlight feature in both InDesign CS4 and CS5 on the Mac. However, I’ve not been able to actually get it to work.

    I tried to assign Ctrl+S to that shortcut both in the Default context and the Text context in a custom set of shortcuts.

    In InDesign CS5, the shortcut doesn’t seem to do anything. In InDesign CS4, it brought up the CS4 splash screen!

    Were you actually able to get it to work?

    I have a theory that this might be a “vestigial organ,” like an appendix. In CS4 developement, Adobe introduced the Application Bar, but it is implemented differently in InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop and Bridge. Interestingly, of those four, Bridge DOES have a Search in Spotlight feature. It appears on the right side of the Application Bar. The Search field on the Mac have a popup menu which offers three choices?Bridge Search: Current Folder; Spotlight Search: Current Folder; and Spotlight Search: Computer.

    Maybe this was a feature which was destined for InDesign but never made it to release, but the shortcut was inadvertantly left in Keyboard Shortcuts.

  9. That’s funny, Steve! However, yes, it really does work for me. I select some text, hit the shortcut, and it jumps to the Finder, opens a new window, and starts searching.

  10. Works for me in CS3!

    I didn’t assign a keyboard shortcut, I just highlighted a word and then typed “spot” in the QuickApply Panel, then hit return. “Text and Tables>Search in Spotlight” was highlighted as the first entry. “Search” will bring it up as the first entry as well (“Spot” is easier to type though).

    Even quicker, just right click on a word and “Search in Spotlight” shows up as one of the menu commands (between “Find/Change” and “Spelling”). (Of course, that option also shows up right clicking on a word in this dialog box here in Safari too!)

    @Steve: Do you have a 3rd party utility installed that might intercept a Spotlight call, like maybe Quicksilver or a services menu plugin or something?

  11. [poking my head up from the depths of the recording studio …]

    “Search in Spotlight” is a *wonderful* obscure feature of the week -eek -eek! Good one David. Steve, I can find it fine in my contextual menu in CS5. I’m pretty sure it’s an OS X service that the ID team “exposed” … and since Windows has a similar feature (Windows Desktop Search) I’m not sure why they didn’t think to add it to the Windows iteration.

    But if you’re in Mini Bridge, the Search field there in the upper right corner gives you the option to do both types of searches … one using your OS’s Find/Search code, and one called a “Bridge Search.” A good explanation of the difference between the two is in the online help for Bridge; here’s the excerpt:

    You can use the Quick Search field in the Adobe Bridge application bar to find files and folders in Adobe Bridge. Quick Search lets you search using either the Adobe Bridge search engine or Windows Desktop Search (Windows) or Spotlight (Mac OS). The Adobe Bridge engine searches filenames and keywords. Operating system engines look for filenames, folder names, and image keywords. Adobe Bridge search looks within the currently selected folder and all subfolders, including My Computer (Windows) and Computer (Mac OS). Operating system search engines look in the currently selected folder or in My Computer (Windows) and Computer (Mac OS).

    1. Click the magnifying glass icon in the Quick Search field and choose Adobe Bridge, Windows Desktop Search (Windows), or Spotlight (Mac OS) as your search engine.
    2. Enter a search criteria.
    3. Press Enter (Windows) or Return (Mac OS).

    Note: Windows Desktop Search is installed by default for Vista. Windows XP users can download and install it from the Microsoft website. Adobe Bridge detects if Windows Desktop Search is installed and enables the functionality accordingly. The default Windows Desktop Search only indexes to the Documents and Settings directory. To include additional locations, modify your options in the Windows Desktop Search Options dialog box.

  12. David, I’m intrigued by the FrogPad… please do give us a review when you get one.

    I use a Wacom tablet and I think that the FrogPad would be the perfect compliment to a tablet – that is, if it handles keyboard shortcuts well. I tend to work with one hand holding the stylus and the other hand on the keyboard for shortcuts. But I have to drop the stylus if I need to type something in. The FrogPad would allow me to keep holding the stylus and type at the same time. Very efficient!

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